Filoni: Prequels Important To Today’s SW

Comic Book.com has a short interview with Dave Filoni where he discusses why the prequels are relevant to today’s Star Wars stories:

“I think it works into what the struggle is. You want to achieve this balance or you want to become … I think it’s a natural part of it, and really the introduction of this idea of balance comes from the prequels,” Filoni told ComicBook.com. “That’s where the prophecy of the chosen one and ‘the one who will bring balance,’ as quoted by Mace Windu, really comes from. So, I find that very interesting because the prequels add a tremendous amount of depth to all these things, especially ways of the Force. The people, I don’t think realize that that’s where it comes from, but it’s not something that’s natural to the original trilogy. It’s something that stems from the prequels, which added a tremendous amount to what we know about Star Wars.”

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34 Responses to “Filoni: Prequels Important To Today’s SW”

  1. joe Says:

    well said

  2. LadyJediScientist (@LJediScientist) Says:

    This explains why Rebels has more depth to than TFA.

  3. senatorbinks27 Says:

    I think what people don’t get (and if a flaw can be argued of George, it’s that he expects everyone to get it right away even if it’s too subtle for many – and I say this sympathetically since I often have the same problem) is that the true balance needs to be struck between the Living and Cosmic Force. Too many people focus on the Light and Dark; George said the existence of the Dark Side is an imbalance and that doesn’t sit right with the “Dark Is Not Evil” crowd (which is a concept I adore in other fictional universes and in real life, but Light=Good/Dark=Bad just fits Star Wars better).

    • SWPN Says:

      The existence of the dark side is not imbalance. George never said it was. The dark side is part of the Force. Imbalance is when the dark side is exploited and takes over the light. It has nothing to do with the living and cosmic Force. Those are aspects of the Force that never change.

    • Branislav Marček Says:

      I wouldn´t say that he expects them to get it right away. It´s more like he believes in the inteligence of his audience and their ability to pay attention to the story and figure out things for themselves.

      Hardly can anyone blame him. It´s not his fault that most of the fanboys, geeks and even “professional” film critics out there are a bunch of biased, ignorant morons with short attention span.

      It´s the reason why great films like I-III get badmouthed at every turn while mediocre crap like … (well, I´ll keep that for myself) recieves an overwhelming approval from fanboys and super high ratings at IMDB and RottenTomatoes.

  4. Branislav Marček Says:

    Important to him him at least.

  5. ReuniclusBlob Says:

    why do the prequel get shoved aside it brings more lore that makes the original trilogy more interesting

  6. Matthew Riggio Says:

    I love Dave Filoni. He gets it. In my opinion he is the true heir to George Lucas as a creator of Star Wars. Lucas didn’t call Filoni his padawan for nothing.

    Rinzler also gets it.

  7. Jacobesico Says:

    If there is anyone who I would trust to safeguard George’s legacy, then it would be Dave Filoni.

    Rebels is an amazing masterpiece. I saw the latest episode and there is far more emotion in that then there is in TFA.

    I started off thinking that I wouldn’t like Rebels or that it wouldn’t be any good. The first episode proved me wrong and I have been a fan ever since.

    The same with Ahsoka Tano. When TCW first aired, I wasn’t too keen on her character, but Filoni developed it to a point where I consider her to be one of the greatest in the Star Wars Saga.

    I just wish he was involved with the “Sequel” Trilogy. It sorely needs his imput.

  8. Bayonne VeterinaryMedical Says:

    Sorry to get off-topic, but, I have an important statement to make that has mention of the Prequels in it:

    Hopefully, as of 4 weeks ago (which is when I should’ve posted this), now that Rogue One has made over a Rogue $1 (no pun intended) billion dollars worldwide/globally, this will inspire Disney to have the courage to keep traveling back in time and do more “Star Wars Story” spinoff movies set in The Clone Wars” and in the era of the Prequels, after we see the Han Solo and Boba Fett movies. I hope we see that live action Obi-Wan movie with Ewan McGregor (which would make sense if in Episode 8, Kenobi is revealed to be Rey’s granddadughter and we could see in the Obi-Wan movie how that came to be) and a live-action Ahsoka movie to be written by Dave Filoni and directed and co-written by Ava DuVernay (“Disney’s A Wrinkle In Time”) with Rosario Dawson in the role of Ahsoka herself, which would now make sense for sure given the praise for Filoni’s writing that he nailed in the recent strong two “Rebels” episodes centered on Sabine. Also, since Disney has shown that the Prequel Trilogy and “The Clone Wars” are still canon by having Saw Gerrera from “Clone Wars”, Bail Organa and the Prequel planets of Coruscant and Mustafar in “Rogue One”, I’d imagine they’ll go forward with doubling down on Prequel Trilogy/Clone Wars references going into future movies (Sequel Trilogy and Star Wars Story movies), which they should now given Rogue One making a billion. I’m sure they will now, judging by the critical and financial response to Rogue One, and they would have to now if they want 2 show Disney hasn’t issued a Prequel ban in future Star Wars films.

    So, any thoughts (try not b too negative if you please could), guys? Yes? No? Maybe? Let me know. Thanks. 😉

    Also, P.S., if this upsets sensitive people, I apologize in advance, since I don’t intend for this to sound upsetting even if some of you feel otherwise, but, I feel like I have to say this to get it off my chest. I’m starting to believe those who are now starting to believe has a Star Wars Prequel ban on all future Star Wars films (you know who you are even though I’m not gonna call you out by name over fear of getting banned for this site) are starting 2 become the equivalent of angry, jealous and (for a lack of a better world) deluded DC Extended Universe fanboys who feel the actual reason ” Batman V. Superman” and “Suicide Squad” didn’t get good reviews is because they believe Disney/Marvel Studios pays the critics to bash the DC Extended Universe and praise the Marvel Cinematic Universe as the better comic book movies, which has been as false and not true twice as it’s clearly shown (through the Ultimate Cut of BvS and through the Hollywood Reporter story on Suicide Squad’s troubled production back when the movie came out 6 months ago here: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/suicide-squads-secret-drama-rushed-916693) that its WB’s fault, not the critics’s fault, the movies are so critically maligned due to them continuing to interfere in their movies, which goes against their motto of making the DCEU film slate filmmaker-driven, something Marvel Studios has the complete opposite of with their directors (which I state as a for-the-most-part true fact and not one to start a Marvel Vs. DC flame war) given how we see James Gunn’s offbeat zany comedic touch on “Guardians of the Galaxy”, Shane Black’s infusion of a buddy cop movie with “Iron Man 3” or Scott Derrickson’s supernatural-semi-horror-ish approach with “Doctor Strange”. So, please, my Prequel fans (and I’m not saying this to attack you so please don’t have me banned for saying this), don’t become deluded out of what you fear or are starting to fear. Like Yoda in “The Phantom Menace” said, “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

    That’s it. That’s all I have. Nothing more.

    Thank you.

  9. Bayonne VeterinaryMedical Says:

    Actually, two more things.

    1) It’s a little unfortunate that a few users in here have trouble accepting Rebels and Rogue One as official Star Wars canon. I mean if you’re looking for new Star Wars projects that respects the Prequels of Star Wars as canon that in return should be treated as canon, I promise you few users (that I wont call out) that you’d have fun with Rebels and Rogue One and would accept those as canon than The Force Awakens, because at least those projects have people who worked with George Lucas before, like Dave Filoni and John Knoll, that make that show and one movie in particular like how George Lucas would’ve wanted those stories to be, even the meeting and epic fight scene between Ahsoka and Vader is how George Lucas would’ve planned it, since Filoni implied he discussed the whole Ahsoka/Vader storyline with George before he retired. Even you would agree with me, Lazy Padawan.

    2) Also, if the next two Spin-off movies get a fair amount of hate (Rogue One is getting some backlash due to the Prequel/Clone Wars characters and planets in it as well as criticism of the CG Tarkin and Leia that I praise the crew of the movie for having the guts to go with as well as abandoning the opening crawl), we should include those in the SWPAS family to defend because they are, in a way, Prequels of some sort of Star Wars and at least they and “Rebels” are expanding the mythology of Star Wars in a better way than the Sequel Trilogy is doing so far. And, that’s a fact.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      Is this your blog or mine?

      • joe Says:

        yours

      • Mike Jones Says:

        I would think he knew this. That said, he may have forgotten to add include “I respect your opinions, Lazy Padawan, but I kindly, defensively, respectfully and politely don’t want you to believe my opinions are of no importance to you or anyone on SWPAS’. In my opinion, I don’t think he was trying to sound like a jerk, act blatantly stupid, hateful &/or anything. He just wanted to know what you think of what he thinks. Maybe he thinks that you think you would take it lightly, so he tried to sound respectful about it, even if you may not have thought he did, which I believe he did in the first statement, but, maybe not enough in the second. Maybe he didn’t try hard enough, because he was about to do something important and had to find a quick but well-informed way to respond to you. Maybe He just wants to provide peace and equality on the blog without making it get out of control. He did say the Ahsoka/Vader fight happens as Filoni had planned and that’s true according to this interview IGN’s Eric Goldman (huge Clone Wars fan, BTW) did with Filoni following Rebels Season 1: http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/03/05/star-wars-rebels-co-creator-on-season-1s-big-death-and-big-return-and-where-season-2-will-go?page=2 .I don’t believe he was trying to sound harsh on you, if I’m reading this correctly and in a different way.

      • Bayonne VeterinaryMedical Says:

        It’s your blog, LP. I apologize if my second statement sounded commanding. I respect ur opinions. I jut don’t want mine to be brushed aside as if they don’t matter. And, I probably should’ve been made better.

      • davidbreslin101 Says:

        Honestly, I think it’s more the length than the content that’s an issue! The comments on a short blog post aren’t really the place for a densely-argued wall of text twenty times the length of the original post. Better to compress what you want to say into a few sentences. (Plus, the wall-of-text attack is a favoured tactic of many flamers, so just seeing it can raise hackles….)

  10. joe Says:

    just being funny here no offense

  11. ladylavinia1932 Says:

    How did we get to discussing Marvel and DC Comics movies?

    • Bayonne VeterinaryMedical Says:

      We didn’t. I just wanted to provide a fair link between PT fans who worry that Disney is issuing a Prequel ban (when they are not and that statement is total BS) and see how their fears are similar to those unfounded statements of DCEU fans who think Disney/Marvel Studios is payin g the critics to badmouth their films (which are also not true).

      • Marshall Says:

        I don’t think Disney is paying critics to bash the DCEU, but I do think critics have been giving recent Disney/Marvel films more praise than they really deserve and you have to question their sanity. I haven’t seen BVS or Suicide Squad but I have seen Man of Steel (which I loved) and that too was bashed by critics. MOS, along with the prequels, were films that were willing to take chances and introduce something new and they got a lot of hate for it. Films like TFA and the MCU play it safe and go with established formulas for a quick buck – and we (critics and the public) are throwing our money at these films. Greed over artistic expression – that’s what scares me.

      • Mike Jones Says:

        Let me provide a fair devil’s advocate 4 u on 5 things, Marshall:

        1) I wouldn’t say Man of Steel was “bashed”, more like got mixed reviews and divisive fan reaction, because while some people liked how it re-defined and gave us a grounded real-word-esque Superman, they were divided over Superman killing Zod in the end over the whole “moral code” that in the comics, Superman doesn’t kill. Same with Batman in “Batman V Superman”, when they were divided on Batman’s killing methods but praised Ben Affleck as the Batman. More on BvS and Suicide Squad in a minute.

        2) As far as calling the MCU formulaic and safe, without getting into an out-of-control argument about that, I understand where u r coming from on that, but, I wouldn’t say it’s always safe and formulaic. TFA, on the other hand, maybe. But, I’d respectfully argue about that with the MCU movies. For example, while some of the Marvel movies do follow the “save the day and defeat the bad guy” formula, at least they take chances on that with lesser-known characters like the Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man and Doctor Strange and they end up paying off because people and kids look up to those characters as idols and icons like how kids look up to Ahsoka and Rex in Clone Wars. And, they’ll be sure to take bigger risks on the next two somewhat-to-lesser-known characters with Black Panther in 2018 and Captain Marvel in 2019, because they’re going to see if people, in the era of Trump, want to see superhero movies about African-American comic-book characters or female superhero characters. Also, at least “Captain America: Civil War” was a departure from the whole “saving the world” nonsense and also a departure from having an ending with things going boom, because the end of “Civil War” was just three guys duking out on each other. And, at least Marvel has managed to keep the managing of their brand under control, whereas WB/DC has trouble with their managing their brand-controlling, which I’ll get to now.

        3) Man of Steel, Batman V Superman and Suicide Squad weren’t bashed by critics because of them taking chances or even the fact that they were dark, although that may have been a bit of an issue with BvS. They were bashed for being movies that tried to build a DC Cinematic Universe too quickly just to get to a Justice League movie to make money and not taking their time, like Marvel Studios does. I don’t dislike that idea, because I do like some of the setups for Justice League in BvS and Suicide Squad. I just think WB was too hands-on with their directors and wouldn’t allow Snyder to make just a movie about Batman fighting Superman and instead also forced him to throw in JL character teasers and Wonder Woman in the movie, instead of letting him and other directors do their own movie, which hopefully will change with Wonder Woman, Justice League and Aquaman.

        4. I’d also respectfully disagree about questioning the sanity of the critics and them praising Marvel movies, because they’re formulaic, only because the Fox/Marvel Entertainment/X-MEN universe movie known as “Logan” is getting critical praise for being different from the standard superhero genre, being a risk-taker and being a dark movie. Rotten Tomatoes has proof of that here with their count of all the reviews for “Logan” so far: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/logan_2017/

        5. Also, while I understand u may start to worry if Disney is losing their artistic side for money, I’d only say maybe that’s not entirely true only because “Zootopia” and “Moana”, two of the Top 12 movies at the global box office of 2016 were original and artistically different movies for Disney, and while TFA played it safe, at least Disney and Lucasfilm took a chance on “Rogue One”, because people weren’t sure if they’d enjoy a Star Wars quasi-prequel that explains a story we already know about but haven’t yet seen on screen up until now along with feeling if they weren’t sure if they’d enjoy seeing it and seeing other things in it like including Prequel Trilogy/Clone Wars characters and planets and tons of CGI VFX like with Tarkin and Leia. But, luckily, it paid off with over $1 billion. And after Rogue One and Han Solo’s Origin Movie (which is another risk-taker given that Disney and LFL will see if people wanna see SW movies with younger characters from other Star Wars movies set in the past), we could see live-action Obi-Wan or Ahsoka movies as well.

        So, that’s my fair devil’s advocate for you, Marshall.

      • Marshall Says:

        1.) It really says something when Rotten Tomatoes’ senior editor Gray Drake calls out critics for their poor reviews of “Man of Steel”, something RT has never done before: http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/06/14/man-of-steel-rotten-tomatoes-editor-shocked-at-low-critic-rating/
        2.) Tell that to writer and the people in the comments section of this article, which totally expressed how I felt after watching Captain America: Civil War for the first time: http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/i-swear-this-is-the-last-marvel-film-i-see-captain-america-reviewed/ and even though GOTG was a hit, it was not w/out controversy while Ant-Man and Dr. Strange didn’t make the same money as GOTG and the Avengers.
        3.) I’ve heard that argument before and I think that even if WB/DC had taken their time to build up a cinematic universe, the critics still would’ve hated the movies because critics have their biases, prejudices and politics. They did it to Lucas and they’ll do it to others.
        4.) When I said Marvel movies, I was basically referring to the ones made by Disney. Some fans suspect Disney of trying to cut ties with the X-Men franchise because Fox owns the rights, this is why you don’t see X-Men characters included in Marvel merchandise. http://nerdist.com/did-marvel-comics-just-silently-kill-the-x-men/
        5.) For every “Zootopia” (a film I didn’t like) and “Moana” there’s a live action remake of “The Jungle Book”, “Cinderella” and now “Beauty and the Beast”. Get ready for a live action “Lion King” remake in the near future (for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives).

      • davidbreslin101 Says:

        Me, I don’t think Disney have a “prequel ban” at all. They are, however, carefully choosing how much to refer to that era in each of their projects.
        Rebels? prequel era refs will play well with Clone Wars fans. Target age audiences are less prejudiced, so it’s not a problem. Give Filoni free rein.
        TFA? Crucial franchise relaunch that had HUGE potential for backlash from the Lucas Hate Club, so as few prequel era refs as humanly possible.
        Rogue One? an experimental side project, outside the Main Sequence of Star Wars films. Let’s take some risks, see what happens….

  12. joe Says:

    any plans to do an article on the character whose fate i stupidly spoiled in the new novel empire’s end ? it would be interesting to hear what people think about it

    • joe Says:

      seriously will there be a piece on that little spoiler in empire’s end? i promise to not spoil anything on the fate of a prequel character again

  13. ladylavinia1932 Says:

    I’ve seen all of the three DCEU movies made so far. Personally, I really enjoyed them. I’m not really in the habit of paying attention to critics. If I was, I would have ignored the Prequel movies a long time ago.

    I thought Zack Synder and David Ayer did a great job in putting new twists to the comic book movies, just as Marvel did with “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”, “Guardians of the Galaxy” and “Ant-Man”. And in a way, those movies remind me of the Prequel Trilogy. Like the 1999-2005 films, the first three DCEU movies gave a new twist to the comic book movie genre and managed to provide an interesting and entertaining story as well.

    [“Man of Steel, Batman V Superman and Suicide Squad weren’t bashed by critics because of them taking chances or even the fact that they were dark, although that may have been a bit of an issue with BvS. They were bashed for being movies that tried to build a DC Cinematic Universe too quickly just to get to a Justice League movie to make money and not taking their time, like Marvel Studios does.”]

    This is an unfair accusation, especially since three years had passed between “Man of Steel” and “Batman v. Superman”. Also, the MCU provided five movies before Marvel did “The Avengers”. For the DCEU, there will be FOUR movies before the first “Justice League” movie. I think Disney couldn’t deal with another studio kickstarting their own multiuniverse with comic book heroes. I suspect that Disney wanted to maintain the monopoly on this kind of filmmaking and Warner Brothers had just ruined it for them.

  14. joe Says:

    regarding the new lion king at least they got james earl jones to reprise his role of mufasa

  15. lovelucas Says:

    We are still a Star Wars site, right?

  16. joe Says:

    i admit it got a little off topic there and i think the whole disney paying critics thing is bs

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