Clone Corridor Essay On Anakin, Padmé, & Arthurian Legend

Clone Corridor posted a really good piece about the Arthurian legend’s influence on the Anakin/Padmé romance:

I think the similarities to Anakin here are quite obvious, but the idea that this paragon of knighthood is brought low by illicit love runs through Anakin’s story. He has the potential of being one of the best Jedi to have ever lived with incredibly powers, but by falling in love with Padmé Amidala, herself a queen at the time, seemingly dooms him from the beginning. Both Lancelot and Anakin are torn between their duties to their orders and their hearts.

Just to throw in my own thoughts, Gwinnie was by late medieval standards both an adulteress and a traitor, way more serious than anything Padmé ever did. In real life that got your head separated from your body if you happened to be a queen married to Henry VIII. I’ve read that the Guinevere/Lancelot romance did not appear in Arthurian legend until after the Norman invasion and the French court’s troubadours brought a little sprinkle of forbidden love and scandal to add a little spice. It figures they’d like that sort of thing.

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16 Responses to “Clone Corridor Essay On Anakin, Padmé, & Arthurian Legend”

  1. susanbowess Says:

    To all:

    Just to let everyone know… our Lucas appreciation vid is posted on youtube and facebook now. Here’s the link to see it —-

    You’ll have to watch it using the big screen in order to see some of the written messages because the printing is so small due to their length. Please watch the vid to the end because I’ve added a little something “extra” while the credits roll. Hope you like the finished product and I apologize to those who didn’t send their vids and/or written messages in time to add them.

    Also, when on youtube watching our vid, make sure you click on Like. Pass the word on to your friends too. Maybe if the vid gets enough Likes it’ll go viral. Lucas might actually find out about it and watch our vid. Wouldn’t that be awesome?

    Force be with you all. 🙂

    • Jacobesico Says:

      Well done, Susan and thank you. That is amazing.

      We need someone to tweet this video to Jett Lucas (@mrjettlucas) and I hope that Lazy Padawan can spread the word as well.

      • susanbowess Says:

        Thanks Jabobesico. It took me a lot of time and patience to make this vid and I sure do appreciate the compliment. How did you like the end when the credits rolled? Thought everyone would get a kick outta that. 🙂
        Anyway, I did tell people to click on Like on youtube. Maybe that will be enough to get Lucas’ attention. Sure hope he sees it someday. Fingers crossed! XXXXXX Good idea about tweeting Jett Lucas too. Hopefully someone will. 🙂

    • Hoggle Says:

      Congratulations Susan 🙂

      • susanbowess Says:

        Thanks Hoggle. Took me long enough to post the finished product, but as you can see, I had a lot of people sending messages to add to the vid. Sure hope Lucas sees it someday!

  2. Hoggle Says:

    It’s a very interesting legend with a lot of similar motiffs, but i find the construction of the two quite different in their respective stories.

    Anakin & Padme’s relationship was ultimately to their credit, i would say it’s tragedy was that they both made mistakes at times in not being faithful enough to it but they nvertheless committed enough to it that it’s fruits i would say, at the end of GL’s 6 films, have redeemed the fall out from the time period they shared together if not the actual malaise.

    Part of that malise was that Anakin wasn’t equiped to deal with Palpatine’s powers as the Jedi he had become, relationship with Padme or not.

  3. Anthony Echevarria Says:

    I agree that I don’t see Anakin and Padme’s relationship as a necessarily inherent mistake. In fact, I think it could have saved him, if he had just given in more to his desire to be with Padme, and let go of his desire to be a powerful Jedi Master. He could have done other things. He could have been a mechanic, helping people with his abilities, or been a wandering avenger fighting for justice. Heck, he could have even joined CorSec! Those guys would have appreciated having a Force powered agent in their midst. The regulations might have been too much for him, but at least it would have been something different from being a Jedi, and they wouldn’t have held a grudge against him for Padme.

    Also, I know it has nothing to do with Star Wars, but I like the way the Arthur story was handled in “Tomb Raider: Legend”, with Lara Croft finding Lancelot’s tomb down in Arthur’s cave, but not Guinevere. The implication isn’t the erasure of the female character, so much as that Lancelot didn’t do all those things, and was considered noble enough to be buried next to Arthur still, back then. 😛 If there was a Guinevere, she was just a queen, and not the traitorous figure later ascribed to medieval tales.

    In case you’re wondering, there’s only about 13 tombs down there, so I’m guessing those are his lieutenants, not the 150 guys he actually commanded. That may explain why Guinevere isn’t buried down there, nor any of the lesser knights. I don’t think the developers at Crystal Dynamics concerned themselves too much with those particular details, though. *shrugs*

    • Hoggle Says:

      I’ll go for if Anakin & Padme given in completely to their relationship, Palpatine’s connection to Anakin would have gradually disappeared and he would have become a very powerful Qui-gon version of Dooku (who defeated Palpatine in TPM all the same), leading the remnants of the Jedi order who may not have been quite as obliterated as they got, & groups from both the republic and seperatists, in defeating Palpatine’s Empire in it’s early stages.

      Padme and himself would have then been leading figures in a new republic & Jedi order (which Luke helps with) being re-built. Although they would have become much celebrated galactic royalty with great standing, they then both would have recognised and served Leia’s new force paradigm in the galaxy for the republic as she became the peaceful & elected Empress.

      or something like that 🙂

      • Hoggle Says:

        I really like this you tube video, might be my fav. fan one i’ve seen in this sort of soap style, it’s pretty new & i think really well done with nice montages of acting moments & scenes from the story and with a song that makes a really complimentary whole. 😛

        Apart from that, it’s quite relevant & feels so Star Warsy 1-6 saga with prequel emphasis of the general topic in this thread so hope is ok to post.

  4. ladylavinia1932 Says:

    This article reminds me of written by Paul MacDonald, who claimed back in 2002 that Anakin and Padme’s romance was based upon that called “courtly love”, which could be found in many medieval literature.

  5. jayoungr Says:

    On Guinevere being an adulteress: that was actually an important trope in courtly love stories. The theory goes something like this: marriage was about wealth and alliances, so a love that led to marriage was in some sense brushed with materialism in the minds of the audience. If one or both of the people involved were already married, it made their love seem more pure because there was no question of one desiring the other’s wealth.

    As you say, Padme doesn’t do anything that serious, but Anakin kind of does: I’d say the equivalent to Guinevere being married is Anakin being a Jedi.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      It used to be custom among the noble classes, since most of those marriages were arranged for political or economic reasons, that it was “okay” to have an emotional or even a full-blown love affair on the side so long as it did not disrupt or end the marriage. It was common for instance for kings to have mistresses and plenty of “illegitimate” children on the side. Henry VIII upended that whole arrangement when he demanded a church annulment from Catherine of Aragon so he could marry his mistress Anne Boleyn. Of course he did not tolerate adultery from his own queens, neither from Boleyn (which was likely a trumped-up charge to get rid of her so he could marry his new mistress Jane Seymour) nor from Catherine Howard. Guinevere usually doesn’t come off too well in legend, and in modern terms, neither does Lancelot.

      • susanbowess Says:

        Funny that you mention Anne Boleyn because Natalie Portman played her in a movie about the Boleyns, as well as playing Padme in PM, AOTC and Revenge – another fact connecting SW to medieval literature. Also, I’m supposed to be related to Queen Elizabeth the First, Anne Boleyn being her mother. I never believed it of course, but the name Bowes does pop up in Elizabeth’s history. Would be cool if true, but if so, where’s my freaking crown? LOL

      • lazypadawan Says:

        Yeah, I saw that movie.

      • susanbowess Says:

        It was as a real good movie and I learned a lot from it. Also, Nat did an outstanding job of portraying Anne Boleyn. She’s a great actress. No wonder Lucas chose her for the role of Padme. 🙂

      • jayoungr Says:

        All this said–I do think Clone Corridor is onto something with the flavor of Anakin/Padme. I like the idea of Anakin as a blend of Arthur and Lancelot.

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