Ron Howard Was Asked To Direct TPM

Here’s a very interesting revelation from director Ron Howard, who has known George Lucas since working on “American Graffiti” decades ago. Lucas had asked him to direct TPM, as well as Robert Zemeckis AND Steven Spielberg:

Appearing on the Happy Sad Confused podcast, Howard revealed to host Josh Horowitz that George Lucas, with whom he worked on American Graffiti and Willow, asked him to direct Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace.

“He did, he did,” Howard said in response to whether Lucas approached him about the film. “He didn’t necessarily want to direct them, and he told me that he had talked to [Robert] Zemeckis, he talked to me, he talked to Steven Spielberg. I was the third one he spoke to. They had all said the same thing, ‘George, you should just do it!’”

So much for the meme that Lucas was some power-hungry control freak who only wanted “yes men” and wouldn’t “share” with anyone else.

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64 Responses to “Ron Howard Was Asked To Direct TPM”

  1. roxam91 Says:

    Zemeckis and Spielberg??? Wow… I kinda wonder what a Spielberg-directed Star Wars movie would’ve looked like.

    • Keith Palmer Says:

      There was a comment in “Empire of Dreams” (the documentary included in the first “trilogy DVD set”) that said the bad blood over Lucas not following “director’s credit” guild rules for The Empire Strikes Back (“A Lucasfilm Ltd. Production” was accused of being his personal credit) kept Spielberg from directing Return of the Jedi. On the other hand, the documentary didn’t mention what the more recent book “The Making of Return of the Jedi” said, that David Lynch was asked to direct the movie and turned it down, whereupon Richard Marquand (the book did seem to say he was a “strong number two” on the list) got the job.

  2. Adam D. Bram (The Nilbog) Says:

    Actually, given the general tone of Phantom, I could easily see any of the three doing it justice.

  3. susanbowes Says:

    Lucas is a bit of a control freak as far as SW is concerned, but who can blame him for that? It’s too bad that Ron Howard didn’t direct TPM because he’s such an extraordinary film-maker, but I think TPM came out just fine without him.

  4. Bob Clark Says:

    I like Lucas as a director, so I’m glad they said no. Spielberg and Zemeckis are good, no doubt, but they had their own movies to make.

    Ron Howard though… I just don’t like his movies. At all. I don’t really count Willow as his.

    • susanbowes Says:

      To each his own Bob, but I think Howard is an excellent director. Apollo 13 was outstanding. I remember when the event actually happened and Ron got all the facts right.

      • Keith Palmer Says:

        My own thoughts sprang to Apollo 13 too (although I’m not sure I’ve seen many of Howard’s other movies, beyond Willow once when I was pretty young); nevertheless, I can suppose counterarguments to “it’s a generally accurate dramatic presentation of historical fact” could be made (without knowing what they might be).

      • Bob Clark Says:

        It’s a good movie. Not a great movie. And he’s a good director, more or less, but he’s not really one of the greats. Granted, sometimes a mere professional can be more talented in some areas than a true artist (I love Kubrick to death, but one of the reasons he did hundreds of takes is maybe he had trouble reaching his actors maybe), but in the end I’ll take imperfect art over something that’s perfectly balanced but just entertainment.

      • susanbowes Says:

        I think Howard is an above average director, better than most around today.

  5. bansheegun Says:

    Hasn’t Lucas said he prefers writing to directing?

    • Tony Ferris Says:

      Lucas more or less abhors writing.

      He has said that he prefers producing to directing, but that was mostly due to the hideous experiences he had on THX, Graffiti, and Star Wars. He had a far better experience shooting the prequels, so it’s possible that he’s more favourably disposed towards the director’s chair these day (I only wish he sit in it again).

      He favours editing though, above all else, even to the point of describing himself as really being an editor.

      • PrinceOfNaboo Says:

        Rick McCallum said that Lucas came to conclusion that directing isn’t that bad after all when they shot an episode of his young Indy TV show with Harrison Ford.

        That was probably one of the main points that led Lucas to direct TPM himself.

  6. Jason S. Says:

    Lucas also invited David Hare, Frank Darabont, and Irvin Keshner to write and co-direct the prequel trilogy, the plan being to model the working relationship he had with Richard Marquand for Return of the Jedi. (Keshner would later state that he would have been absolutely thrilled to have collaborated with Lucas on the prequels). The only problem was that Lucasfilm had severe disputes with the WGA and DGA throughout the 90s, causing all negotiations to backfire. Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher did proofread early drafts of Phantom Menace, but probably did not contribute significant story material.

    Another note: Lucas stated in the Making of Empire Strikes Back book that writing and directing were his least favorite tasks for the original trilogy, and that he preferred working on editing. However, later interviews on the prequels highlighting his passion for storytelling suggest this might have changed.

    • susanbowes Says:

      I’m pretty sure Lucas had a heart attack or close to back then and that’s one reason why he didn’t direct Empire. (not positive about it being ESB. Might’ve been ROTJ)

    • jarjarbacktattooguy Says:

      Does anyone know if Darabont actually did an Episode I draft?

      Darabont as writer and Kenneth Branagh as Obi-Wan were the most persistent rumors about the film that didn’t pan out.

    • Stefan Kraft Says:

      There is a quote by Darabont that suggests that the WGA disputes were not the (main) reason that Darabont did not contribute to the script. Darabont said that he would polish/finish the script after GL had written the drafts (or something similar). However, GL kept on writing and finished the script by himself. Darabont thought back then that the movie was good, by the way.

      As for Kasdan, I have read that Lucas approached him shortly before the actual production started. The person that has written the article where this is stated is however quite critical and compares this to a high school student that hands a script over to a friend for proofreading just one day before the deadline. (Interpretation by the writer, not mine – the person is critical of post-ESB Lucas, so I am careful to base my opinion on that.)
      Personally, I would not be surprised if the collaboration Kasdan-Lucas was also tried much earlier, but it did not work out because of the WGA disputes, and that Lucas approached Kasdan again just before production. However, the time until the start of the production was too short so that Kasdan could not contribute to the script.

    • Stefan Kraft Says:

      An addendum to Jason’s comment: I have heard on the ForceCast years ago that GL wanted to direct the action sequences while the other director would handle the rest. (I am not sure who of the directors Jason mentions was quoted.)

      BTW, did not Spielberg storyboard (and therefore to a certain degree direct) the chase Grevious – Obi-Wan?

      • Stefan Kraft Says:

        Great, I misspelled Grievous

      • Jason S. Says:

        Yes, I remember reading that Spielberg was a guest director for the pre-production animatics regarding the three big duels in ROTS (Mace Windu vs. Palpatine, Anakin vs. Obi-Wan, and Yoda vs. Palpatine). His involvement in the first one required the entire scene to be rewritten, with Anakin arriving late in the fight rather than being there from the start while setting up a trap for Mace.

        It is also an open secret that Tom Stoppard (who worked with Lucas/Spielberg on the Last Crusade) did unsolicited script doctoring and story contributions for ROTS.

      • Bob Clark Says:


      • Stefan Kraft Says:

        This is the first time that I have read about Spielberg being involved in the animatics of the big three lightsabre duels.

        I have read that Tom Stoppard was involved in the writing of the script… I think it was not “enough” to warrant him a mention as a screenwriter together with Lucas, but I may be wrong.

      • lazypadawan Says:

        I think the right word is “uncredited.”

  7. Natalie Says:

    Any of them are vastly preferrable to JJ Abrams or Trevorrow (ick). Rian Johnson is the only promising choice so far.

  8. Captain Fordo Says:

    More proof that the haters are wrong. Even Spielberg know G-Lucas would/made a good movie.

    Anyways, just wondering what you guys think of the new HISHE video about Attack of the clones (

    • hansolo1138 Says:

      I always thought Yoda should have thrown the freakin’ pillar at Dooku. Always stuck out to me.

    • Brian47 Says:

      Because that would be using the Force to attack, instead of just defense, which is what Yoda mentions in ESB, using the Force for “knowledge and defense”.

    • Stefan Kraft Says:

      Well, Yoda could also just have pulled Obi-Wan and Anakin away from the falling column (much easier than keeping the column in the air, I guess).

      However, you could argue that Yoda had to decide in a heartbeet what to do and decided to hold the column, which was not the best option.

      As for him not throwing the column at Dooku:
      a) It was already hard enough to keep the column in the air. Throwing it at Dooku (and this in a powerful way) was not possible. b) Yoda did not try it because he was maybe still hesitant to kill Dooku. This can be combined with a)
      c) Out-of-universe: Do not analyze some of the SW lightsabre duels too much. Why did Vader not hold Luke in mid-air when Luke let himself fall in Cloud City? (Funnily enough, this is mentioned by HISHE in their ESB video, too.) Why did the Emperor not stop the lightning when Anakin threw him in the shaft in his throne room? (It hurt not only Anakin, but also himself.) Why did the Emperor not use the Force to stop his fall in the shaft? (And you will probably find similar examples in the PT.)

      • Hoggle Says:

        I see it as Yoda not being powerful enough to throw the column at Dooku & also Obi & Anakin were life forms (people) where as the Column was an heavy inanimate object that was crashing down, so it was a surety in avoding calamity out of the two options. It wasn’t the Grandmaster of the force Yoda who lifted an X-wing out of a swamp with small movements of his fingers in the OT at this time in his character development.

        Luke dropped pretty fast & Vader had his lightsaber in his hand along with that type of move not being seen on screen before by anyone 2

        The Emperor cannot fly, & would have been consumed by rage at the turn of events, along with that he was already letting himself go near full throttle in zapping Luke.

      • Stefan Kraft Says:

        All valid and good points, Hoggle! I did not want to dismiss the other lightsabre battles, but rather show that – depending on her/his point of view – someone may need more “suspension of disbelief” than others when watching the movies. I am however aware that I did not state this as one of my goals of point c).

  9. Natalie Says:

    Didn’t watch the video. Don’t want more prequel bashing in my life.

  10. Tim Says:

    The sad thing is, the same tired old jabs will persist. Whether it’s “It’s all CGI garbage!” or “Lucas was a power-hungry control freak!”, even when there’s this kind of blatant proof of the contrary, none of the bashers will ever acknowledge it. The Dark Side has clouded their vision, and now forever it dominates their destiny. I’m thankful there are a handful of places like this where prequel love thrives.

    • Stefan Kraft Says:

      I would not be surprised if these allegations will die one day (but later than we hope for). The TCW generation will also become part of “Darth Media,” and they also enjoy the PT. Moreover, we have the ST… While we will almost certainly have to endure a lot of “the first good SW movie since 1983” when it finally hits the silver screens, it will also introduce a new generation of fans to SW that will watch the PT, TCW, the OT without any prejudices.

    • andywylde77 Says:

      The real problem is with the way Disney went about handling the SW brand since it acquired it. It gave haters the sense that the OT was all that mattered and hater fanboys took that and ran with it. I saw this comment on another board recently and this comment shows what the attitude fanboys have of this new era of SW.

      “I’ve made no secret of my “motivation” over the years. I hate the prequels. Whether any those videos are “accurate” or not is irrelevant. They resonate. With a HUGE audience. And Disney knows it.” 11/26/2015

      This was a comment regarding the infamous plinkett reviews. But as you can see, this is a fanboy that thinks Disney is catering to them specifically. Now I personally don’t think that Disney is necessarily catering to anybody. But, the way things have been handled, it would lead a reasonable person to think that Disney is catering to the “OT” only crowd.

      That comment also proves one thing that Jim Raynor stated that fanboys have an inflated sense of self importance. Which is true. I have called this the “majority effect” Which is the effect that people that hate the PT seem to think that there hate is also shared by this mysterious “majority” of fans. I have challenged others to show me how they drew this conclusion of where they were able to claim that a “majority” of fans agree with them? I have yet to get an answer.

      But if people are going to start throwing terms like “majority” around, then it isn’t unreasonable to have numbers to back it up, right? Because if one can’t provide any quantifiable data to back up their claim of the “majority” of fans that agree with them, then it really is pointless to even use the “majority” of fans approach to validate some opinion. But haters prove time and time again that this mysterious “majority” agrees with them and Disney is catering to their specific fanboy needs.

      • susanbowes Says:

        It’s true that the haters have an inflated sense of importance and that Disney is catering to them, partially at least. The haters have been the ones who’ve been most active in posting their hate of the prequels, while we kept quiet knowing everyone has a right to state their opinion. In that sense, Disney probably figured that’s where the money is so why not cater to them. Maybe we prequel lovers should’ve been as loud-mouthed as they were. Then Disney might’ve used Lucas ideas instead of rejecting them, and coddling the haters.

      • andywylde77 Says:

        I agree. I also feel that Disney is really concentrating on the short term rather than the long term. Which seems weird when one thinks of it. Because we now know that one portion of the fan base felt alienated (the OT) from Lucas made a set of movies that didn’t live up to their expectations. Now what Disney is doing seems to be alienating another portion of the fan base by faulty marketing and shady business tactics.

        So I may seem like a conspiracy theorist here, but in reality it’s true. The proof is there. Lucas himself put this whole scenario into focus with his comments on the current state of affairs as far as SW is concerned. But bottom line is that Disney is catering to a group. And the wrong group at that. It’s a shame really.

      • Shamari Stewart Says:

        I’m very disappointed by how Disney has handled Star Wars also, specifically with them trying to please OT fanboys.

        JJ abrams’ comment in Empire magazine about how he wanted the lightsaber fights to be more “raw” or whatever like they were in the original trilogy is one of many things that he’s said that shows me that he either agrees with the prequel-hating/OT-worshipping crowd, or has no problems pandering to them. Neither of which leaves me very hopeful. Not to mention Episode VII, based on what we’ve been hearing, sounds a lot like it might be a rehash of Episode IV (I really hope it’s not, but I am concerned).

        So yeah I’m pretty disappointed with what’s going on. I’ve loved a lot of the Star Wars books that have been released (some I hated, but hey they don’t all have to be great for me to be satisfied), and the Star Wars comics have been great with the exception of the Chewbacca comic (in my opinion). But the movies, for me, are what really is supposed to hit home because that’s where I want Star Wars to be at its best. And to me making a Sequel Trilogy that “feels” like the original movies, is not a good idea and to be frank I just don’t want to see it. I wouldn’t feel good if it “felt” like the prequels either, because I want new movies. This is just a hunch but I think Lucas would’ve given us something new, not just the original films again or “the star wars that generation X grew up with”

      • lazypadawan Says:

        The lightsaber fights won’t be anything like they were in Eps IV-VI, they will be power hack ‘n slash (based on what I’ve seen in t.v. spots and trailers). It might be fair if we’re talking about people who were never properly trained but that’s what Abrams SHOULD say instead of making it sound like “not like the prequels because that’s wrong.” Same thing came up in Allure magazine when the costume designer was told Abrams was “adamant” he didn’t want Queen Amidala type stuff. Again, narratively it makes sense because we’re in a different era with different characters in different circumstances but that kind of quote comes off as a reactionary rejection of what Lucas had just done for the sake of rejecting it.

      • andywylde77 Says:

        Yes you’re right, Lucas would have definitely given us something new. I joke around with people now when they ask, are you going to see the new SW film? I say, no I already seen ANH. That is just a joke, but I hope it doesn’t turn out to be true?

        That was one of the issues I had with Abrams coming on board to do episode 7 was that maybe having a real fanboy involved may be the wrong thing to do? It is like a kid in a toy store. They want to play with everything. But if they disregard the fans of the PT for too long it will bite them in the ass! There are many fans out there that for them SW isn’t Luke, Han and Leia it is Anakin, Obi Wan and Padme. It seems apart from them pushing merchandise of the new films, they are pushing new merchandise of Luke, Vader, Han etc. But I haven’t seen any PT stuff being sold. And yes it seems really unfair how the OT generation seems to think that these films are being made so that they can “relive their youth” or something like that. Well what about the new generation that is yet to experience SW? Will the appeal be there for them to experience? Only time will tell. I was brought up in the OT era myself. But I also was part of the PT era too. I do also understand that there was a whole generation that was introduced to SW via the PT. And I respected that fact that the younger generation wanted to experience SW their way. Now they have people wanting to have Disney cater to their childhood while at the same time those same people step all over the childhoods of others that are still experiencing their childhoods.

        For me my childhood is over. It was great while it lasted. But no amount of childhood pandering will bring that back. That is reality and I can live with that. But I would never try to ruin someone else’s childhood either. It seems that Abrams is leading the charge along with a bunch of disgruntled fans by using this new film as a platform to give some disgruntled fans a chance to relive their childhood again when the PT failed to do that for them. Problem is, these older disgruntled fans won’t ever relive their childhood. They may get a nostalgic feeling here and there, but that is about as much as their going to get.

  11. Hoggle Says:

    The prequels are extremely successful as a set and a compliment to OTs.

    They are not same thing, with different characters & adventures to OT.

    They are a leading third, to the OTs place, in a GL Star Wars mythological cycle.

  12. jarjarbacktattooguy Says:

    The film Howard should direct is Willow: Episode V – The Phantom of Tir Asleen Awakens!

    I was always a big fan of Howard’s earlier films such as Cocoon, Far and Away, and of course, Willow. His big films were always very stylish, so I wish he would have done more larger-scoped films. Warwick Davis was very young and inexperienced at the time, but Howard pulls a great performance out of him.

  13. Hoggle Says:

    It’s like how R2, Anakin & Obi-1s adventure in RoTS, along with R2, C3PO’s & Obis involvement with Mustafar, Luke & Leias birth, & how this flows into A New Hope as an example.

    R2 knows where Leia comes from, recognises Luke & homestead, does Luke like R2? Obi-1 starts to recognise R2 & C3PO, the twins connection to Obi, from RoTS etc

    All this understated stuff that flows into the OTs from the PTs along with the stylistic variation of the PTs ambiguity in who’s doing what and why etc would have made it very hard to GL to not direct for a similar thing i would guess.

    I could have seen it happening for a sequel trilogy though, as would be more about the changing colors than the changing shapes of the PT emotionally, & the foundations are laid.

    • susanbowes Says:

      I can see where you’re coming from, but Mr. Lucas is very protective of his creation. I’m certain whoever directed SW, the MASTER would make sure they directed the film(s) EXACTLY the way he decreed.

      • Stefan Kraft Says:

        I am not completely sure about this. I think Lucas said to Kershner that ESB “is your movie” or something like that. Someone has stated on SWPAS that he also told something similar to Abrams. (However, Lucas probably expected that his story treatments would be used.)

      • susanbowes Says:

        I doubt very much that Lucas was handing the movie over to him completely. Most likely, Lucas meant it as “just letting Kershner direct.”

      • Hoggle Says:

        I’m sure what you are saying, would have resulted in a good version also but it wouldn’t have been GL creative style to impose too heavily on another Director’s specifics, more that they complimented his pre-existing creative vision 🙂

      • susanbowes Says:

        I agree. George has his own way of doing things and sometimes you can’t relay that to anyone else.

      • jarjarbacktattooguy Says:

        Lucas wanted Kershner to bring his experience to the film. However, George felt Gary Kurtz let Kersh have more free rein than he wanted. Kurtz also let the film go over budget.

        The band broke up after that.

        George: “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, Gare.”

        Gary Kurtz: “You…you complete me. You had me at ‘hello’.”

        George: “Uh…wait, what?!”

        Gary Kurtz: “Whatever! I don’t need you! Mark and I are going to make a movie that is going to be bigger than Star Wars! Bigger! It’s called Slipstream!

        Mark Hamill has a totally manly beard in it and his beard would kick Luke Skywalker’s ass! The funny dude from Aliens is in it! There are musical numbers! And there is lots and lots of wind!”

        George: “Wind? Who’s going to see a movie about wind?”

        Gary Kurtz: “Those mo’ fo’s are going to show me the money!”

      • lazypadawan Says:

        I’ve seen “Slipstream,” LOL.

  14. hansolo1138 Says:

    Is it weird that I cannot hear “Ron Howard” without thinking “Opie Taylor?”

  15. ladylavinia1932 Says:

    Directors like Ron Howard and Steven Spielberg are first-rate. Above-average. That I cannot deny. But I just didn’t miss them. I enjoyed “The Phantom Menace” too much for me to wonder how another director would have handled it.

    • andywylde77 Says:

      Well chances are that even if TPM was directed by another individual, it would have mostly been the same as it is now. It was still Lucas’ story. All the other directors involved with the saga still had to adhere to George’s vision. It was his show.

  16. Jim Raynor Says:

    And yet another anti-Lucas myth bites the dust. As it turns out, he asked not one, not two, but three other prominent directors to take the reins of his passion project for him. This is after he already worked with other directors for the Original Trilogy, as well as the Indiana Jones films.

    I recently read another article where Ron Howard expressed praise for TPM and defended it against people who had called out Jake Lloyd’s acting. Prequel supporters are out there, some even in prominent places in the entertainment industry. They’re just not as loud and obnoxious as the people who hate the movies.

    • susanbowes Says:

      I made that same point here, and to haters on facebook. Of course, they all booed me, but screw them. I’m tired of listening to their crap. We should’ve been just as loud as they were through the years, but unlike the haters, we’ve got manners. However, I believe they’re one of the reasons Lucas washed his hands of the whole mess. Perhaps if we’d defending Mr. Lucas with a deafening roar he may never have sold the franchise to Disney in the first place.

      • andywylde77 Says:

        I do understand what you are saying, but the thing is if we were to yell louder than the haters were that would only result in the haters yelling even louder. Believe me I wish it was all that easy. But the hater mentality just disregards all common sense. But we do know that Lucas did want to retire. It all just happened under the wrong circumstances and under shady conditions. The sale was all set provided that Disney buy the story treatments for the ST. The sale was made with those treatments as part of the sale. Once it was finalized Disney then proceeded to throw those treatments away.

        Pretty messed up to do to their second highest shareholder. But it is obvious that Disney had their own plans before the sale was even finalized. They probably just told Lucas all the things he wanted to hear and once the signatures were put on paper, the true intentions of Disney became clear. And those intentions had nothing for Lucas to be a part of.

        I am glad that Lucas is not part of this now. Because the new people in charge will have the fan base turn on them eventually. That is unfortunately how society is. The internet thrives on cynicism and hatred. And once the hype honeymoon of this new film wears down, the cynics of the internet will rear their ugly heads and start to tear this new era of SW down. All the internet personalities that make a name for themselves bashing the PT will have no other options but to bash the new films. These same people that bash the PT usually bash other stuff as well. So to think that this new trilogy will get these same people to start acting nice towards it, won’t happen.

      • susanbowes Says:

        I totally agree that the haters will eventually bash Disney’s SW movies. I hate the thought of them strutting around knowing Disney catered to them, but what goes around, comes around. Disney will pay for their betrayal.

        I know Lucas planned to retire, but he did intend to continue his work making more movies. Not SW of course, because he sold the rights to Disney, but other movies he had in mind. Now, unfortunately, he’s not even going to do that. I can’t say as I blame him, but it’s a terrible shame that he’s walked away from something he loved doing.

        As far as us fighting back, (the haters) I know they’d only shout louder than us, but perhaps if we’d done that years ago when they first started yelling, Lucas might never had ended up selling Lucasfilms to Disney at all. Can’t change that now, but I wish I could. I’m hoping that our appreciation project will at least let Lucas know he’s still appreciated and will be sorely missed.

      • andywylde77 Says:

        Yes I agree

      • roxam91 Says:

        This tweet pretty much sums it up:

  17. Steven F Says:

    I think we should be grateful that Lucas directed TPM because he really is a very good director with a good eye for framing and for pacing the scene. As for the TFA, I think what they have done is make a fan service film. The production design is all rehash from the OT, with literally X wings and Tie fighters instead of newer more advanced ships. Seeing Tie Fighters and X Wings again will hit those nostalgia feels but after a minute it just becomes boring. We’ve been there and seen that. Without spoiling, many of the plot points are just repeats of ANH and not imaginative call backs either but literally exact plot points just like the older film. The prequel haters are about to get the exact film they want, a clunky and less imaginative repeat of the OT. Plus it’s going to be missing, for most of the film, the one character we all want to see and who ROTJ ended with. And I have a feeling what they’ve done to Luke (which is still top secret) won’t make us happy either.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      That’s funny because somebody else told me today that the plot is basically a remake of ANH with some details switched around.

      Unless the galaxy falls into the Dark Ages post ROTJ, I don’t understand why there would be vehicles that look almost exactly the same in 30 years’ time. Are we driving around in cars that are exactly the same as they were in 1985 or 1986?

  18. Bayonne VeterinaryMedical Says:

    Well, here we are today. Guess Disney saw something in Ron Howard that was so good that they hired him to direct the untitled young Han Solo movie in place of Phil Lord and Chris Miller:

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