AOTC Themes On Star

Dan Zehr is back with another installment of his Studying Skywalkers series, this time on the themes of AOTC:

The love that Anakin and Padmé share will eventually bring peace to the galaxy, but the journey towards that peace is ripe with strife and discord. The Jedi Knight and the former queen wish to be together, and express this in the coliseum on Geonosis. Love can sometimes bring pain, as the couple learns; in order to be together, they must practice deceit, as well as lie to their friends. This is not an ideal foundation to build a relationship on, and their marriage, along with the Clone Wars, both become a metaphor for the destruction that dishonesty can do.


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11 Responses to “AOTC Themes On Star”

  1. Hoggle Says:

    AoTCs is key to understanding the first six films, & the two trilogies as a saga, in a story & emotional sense.

    The Jedi order had become about the ‘letter of the law’ type of thing, & the republic had gotten away from them.

    Anakin with the help and encouragement of Palpatine, rebelled further to this general approach with the Jedi in such a degree that he got himself emotionally in over his head than he was equiped to deal with by his Jedi upbring in his relationships, with a significant portion of his personal Jedi code in tatters by the end of AoTC.

    The Jedi Order, also lost their head about this when it came up for them, by taking the temptation of the Clone Armies, which quickly lead to the dismantling of the galactic republic from within.

    There are more perfect Star Wars films, but AoTCs may be the greatest one in a number of ways 🙂

    • lazypadawan Says:


      Just to let you know every comment from a new user is moderated, that’s why it didn’t show up the first time you posted.

  2. susanbowes Says:

    In my fanfiction I wrote that continues the SW saga, I had Luke and his nephew Ben question the Jedi mandate not to allow themselves to fall in love. Luke later goes to the council (all dead and in the Netherworld – Luke too) and asks them to change the rule.

    I didn’t put this in my story, but I also think that the Jedi were wrong to separate children from their families at such a young age. All children need love and approval, especially when very young, but Obi-Wan and the Jedi never gave Anakin any affection, at least not outwardly. It’s no wonder Anakin turned to Palpatine and thought of him as a father figure. Even though manipulating Anakin, Palpatine praised him often.

    • Hoggle Says:

      I hope you had fun with your fan fac.

      WIth mine, Leia became the Matriarch of the entire galaxy (in a Dark Crystal type of ascension), in a cosmic sense, with the ancient prophecy being the fulfillment of astrological systems having their long dormnant demi-gods being able to reveal themselves to mortals, in the peaceful co-existence of a new republic’s planetary characteristics that made up their individual constellations. Anakin was actually her fallen first captain who she had initially sent to path the way for her return, & Luke was a lesser rank of their cosmic order. The midichlorians were unindividualised essences of the time keepers who ran the clocks of the galaxy’s initial harmony.

      Was/is about 2/3s new characters & stuff, 1/3 saga characters & stuff, & here was a good dash of Eygptian mythology in there also and, well anyways. Over all was abit of an etheric adventure of a sequel trilogy if i had to sum it up. I’m not normally a fan fictioner, but with such a phenomenal saga set up, & once i got into it….lol

      • susanbowes Says:

        Your story sounds very interesting too. Do you have it posted on the internet? If so, do you have a link to it. I’d like to read it. 🙂

        You’re right about SW being a phenomenal saga set up and who can blame anyone for not wanting to “get in on the fun” by writing fanfictions of their own.

        As far as the Jedi forgetting the meaning behind their own existence, I refer to Yoda’s statement when he was talking to Obi-Wan about Anakin becoming too arrogant – that it wasn’t only Anakin that had become arrogant.

      • Hoggle Says:

        Thank you 🙂

        The best i could do is send you the outlines and background notes & thoughts, as don’t have anything posted on the internet in full to it, but would be more than happy to send it through if interested.

        To the Jedi arrogance thread in the Prequels, you probably notice that Yoda is much more powerful in levitating objects in TESB than he was in RoTS, that scenes alot more dramatically emotional now as there is alot more tragedy behind it now for Yoda & his history, so it’s sort of got an epic triumph with it now that is bittersweet for him & the Jedi that wasn’t there before. A great example of how the prequels made great scenes in the OT even better.

      • susanbowes Says:

        I’d love to read what you’ve written so far. I’d gladly give you feedback too. My email address is You can download my story at The title of my story is “Malignant Metamorphosis” by Forcechild. (my pen name) Just type in the title and by Forcechild in their search box and the page to download my story should come up. I’m going to add a picture of the cover to my book on my profile page here so you’ll know whether or not you’ve got the right book. 🙂 Force be with you.

    • Hoggle Says:

      That sounds fantastic Susan, looking forward to reading your stuff and will forward through my un-finished works & ideas in next 24 hours or so too 🙂

  3. Keith Palmer Says:

    This is something I’ve been thinking a bit about lately (probably helped by watching the saga again). The tension between “external duty” and “personal feelings” does interest me (and brings to my mind at least Occidental impressions of samurai, one of the elements folded into Star Wars). However, I’ve also tried responding to potential accusations the movies are trying to promote “with great power comes monastic denial” by contemplating Palpatine corrupting Anakin by telling an angrily repressed Jedi “you can have it all at once…” (While the idea came from an essay by someone else, I’m tempted to suppose this was Palpatine’s original intent on suggesting Obi-Wan and his apprentice protect Padme, just because I find it a bit more interesting to think of him as “able to adapt” in addition to “plotting and foreseeing.”)

    • Hoggle Says:

      Yes, that’s a major thing for the Jedi’s connection to the force in GL’s Star Wars lore throughout the six films.

      Qui-gon was more about integrating the Jedi code with personal feelings/thoughts, where as the overall Jedi mode of operanda, in their very long oversight of the Galactic Republic, had come to emphasize the Jedi code with actions, particularly with how the Jedi Council was – the most direct interface to the Chancellor/Senate. While it is shown Yoda teaching the younglings (AoTCs) Qui-gons way, this was serving their development into the greater Jedi orders way as they got older, which had become exclusively about oversight in serving the Galactic Senate & it’s Chancellor.

      Anakin being ‘too old’, meant that the application of the Jedi Code was running against his connection to the force in a more obvious way to him than the rest of the Jedi order of the time, and his personal development was both frustrated and stunted. If Obi-wan knew about Anakin’s fixations about Padme, then Palpatine did also, who had also become Anakin’s confidant. Given Anakin’s visions about his mother, which Palpatine did not have the power over Anakin at the time to have produced, it was an ideal time for him to get Anakin loose where a nervous breakdown with his Jedi code could start, confusing him more & setting up Palpatine’s future Sith conversions.

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