Anthony Daniels Definitely Throws The Prequels Under The Bus

About a year ago, Anthony Daniels made some comments in an Entertainment Weakly interview that seemed to indicate he wasn’t too fond of the prequels. A few of you seemed to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Well, you can erase all doubt from your minds now as Daniels goes full Prowse in an interview with obviously a prequel basher at The Gauridan, er, Guardian. There’s lots of stuff in there about Daniels chafing about the secrecy and what it’s like working with Abrams but here are the relevant quotes:

“George has changed a lot over the years but I think he finds it slightly hard to collaborate,” Daniels observes. “He made decisions that I believe might have been better discussed with other people. JJ is more collaborative. He likes to listen.”

“Ah, the prequels,” says Daniels ruefully. “Hmm. I turned one on the other night. Sky seems to have devoted a whole channel to them.” He leaves no doubt that this is a risible state of affairs.

He gives a shudder when mentioning the Ewoks, the teddy-bear tribe from Return of the Jedi, and claims to have been unimpressed by the lurch in the prequels toward fully digital sets. “The effects are clever but pointless. The skill is there, but so what? Coldness, that’s the word. Bleakness, even.”

All the signs are that The Force Awakens will be different. “It became clear early on that with JJ we were getting back to the old-fashioned kind of film-making. We have walls. Actual sets! All right, so you might not have a view out of the window, but you have a window.

Before the inevitable “he’s entitled to his opinion” gets posted, let me say this 1) Daniels isn’t just some random guy or a professional nerd, he’s been with the saga all along and is an ambassador for the brand 2) he’s old enough and has seen enough to know there are lots of people who love the prequels as much as the originals 3) if those “cold, bleak” prequels hadn’t been successful he wouldn’t be doing TFA or any other Star Wars project now 4) it’s not true and 5) it really does make him sound like a jerk. And I’ve heard plenty of anecdotes to totally back that up.


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127 Responses to “Anthony Daniels Definitely Throws The Prequels Under The Bus”

  1. bansheegun Says:

    “The skill is there, but so what? Coldness, that’s the word. Bleakness, even.” I hope he realizes in his bashing of GL, he’s actually bashing the people who worked extremely hard behind the scenes of those films. Very disrespectful. Never really liked Daniels anyway, he always came off as an arrogant snob.

    • Jim Raynor Says:

      You’re right. No matter how “collaborative” George Lucas is compared to JJ Abrams, making a big budget movie is a job for thousands of people. This is evidenced by those long credits at the end of every film.

      When these people insult CGI or dismiss it with empty labels like “cold” or “bleak,” they’re not just disrespecting George. They’re belittling the work of all those digital artists at ILM.

      I’m pretty sure that the people making all those CGI models and backgrounds invested effort and passion into it. It’s fake, but so what? Very few people can do it, it looks great, and it’s undeniably intricate work.

      Hand drawn animation is 100% fake as well. Are Disney movies “cold,” “bleak,” and heartless as well?

      If evaluating the movie on those criteria, why not talk about the story? The character interactions? The actual emotions being portrayed in various scenes? Instead, these armchair critics all fall back to the tired “practical effects” talking point.

      It’s mindless labels based around surface elements, substituting for real critical analysis.

  2. roxam91 Says:

    There is no doubt he’s a big hypocrite. What happens if people hate TFA Daniels? You gonna call it “cold” and “bleak” in a few years from now?

    Also, is Ewok hate still a thing? Really???

    • Keith Palmer Says:

      Maybe I make too big a deal of the theory that full-bore “prequel rejection” feeds an interpretation of the remaining movies that doesn’t necessarily leave someone with “one fully satisfying trilogy,” but when I see something that might be evidence of it…

  3. bansheegun Says:

    Let me ask this: Where would Daniels be with out George and the Prequels today? His whole career is C-3PO. Nothing more.

  4. Von Says:

    Wow.. real windows… I’m lookin’ forward for TFA but this marketin’ is terrible.

  5. ladylavinia1932 Says:

    I have to repeat that Daniels is entitled to his opinion, even though I wish he had kept his mouth shut and focused his interview on the new movie.

  6. Noah Evans Says:

    Now I am curious on what he thinks of The Clone Wars’s (both of them)

  7. Eduardo Vargas Says:

    This seems strange, considering how he has been a mainstay in most Star Wars projects.

    He’s not bashing the story itself, but still I do find his comments against the CGI to be quite distasteful.

    Really, what’s the point of making rifts in fandom even worse than they already are?? Isn’t he aware how upset fans are about the marketing of TFA??

    Quite honestly, I don’t really care about the future of Star Wars anymore. Unless their is some big revelation from here until December the 18th, I’ll be more interested in the upcoming James Bond film. At least their you don’t see Fleming or Broccoli bashing.

    • Brian47 Says:

      Not exactly, but from time to time you will see certain eras from the Bond series thrown under the bus in a similar fashion, usually the 70’s. Some shake their head in shame at the Bond films from that decade, but they can be just as beloved by a certain segment of the fans. And if you don’t count “Goldfinger” or “Dr No” among your top 5, the hard-core Bond fanatics dismiss you entirely.

      • lazypadawan Says:

        Even among Bond fans, opinions change. For a long time George Lazenby was a punch line; his license to kill was revoked after one film. Now “On Her Majesty’s Secret Service” is treated like the TESB of the Bond flicks. “Goldfinger” might still be the go-to favorite and Connery the quintessential Bond but deep cut Bond fans have really gravitated to OHMSS over the past 20 years.

      • jarjarbacktattooguy Says:

        Well, after From Russia With Love, OHMSS was the most serious of the pre-Daniel Craig films. This is why they like it.

        I am all for serious spy films, but Bond was never meant to be taken that seriously, IMO. It’s a wish fulfillment fantasy. He’s a super hero!

        Guy Hamilton really set the formula for the “super spy” Bond with Goldfinger.

        Having said that, OHMSS really is a very good film. It is far superior to the ultra cynical, cookie cutter Daniel Craig stuff. It just doesn’t really fit into the Guy Hamilton/Roger Moore/Sci-Fi/Disco/Playboy Bond series. This, the 70s/80s Bond, always gets pooped on by the “intellectually elite” fans just like the prequels, despite being hugely successful.

      • Bob Clark Says:

        Brosnan is the Bond that gets thrown under the bus nowadays. Which is sad, because I think he has a lot of the best qualities of most of the Bonds. He’s got Moore’s suaveness, without his vapidness. He’s got a bit of Connery and Craig’s edge, without the cynicism. “GoldenEye” is the best of the bunch, the others being a little weak in scripts and directors, and yet even THAT film gets mocked in the new films. “What were you expecting, Bond? An exploding pen?”. Yeesh. That film (and the N64 game) bought the Bond series a new lease on life in the 90’s. And today, it’s only really well remembered as the first major film in the “Sean Bean Dies” series.

        Generational fandom is a bitch.

      • Adam D. Bram (The Nilbog) Says:

        Christopher Lee (cousin and close personal friend of Ian Fleming) said that Brosnan was the actor who best fit Fleming’s original idea.

  8. Noah Evans Says:

    P.S. I liked the Ewoks and still do.

  9. bansheegun Says:

    LOL Star Wars: Aftermath Review

    • madmediaman Says:

      Yeah I just finished it. Not terribly good. Not awful, just very, very forgettable.

      • zch81721 Says:

        I heard there is a couple of prequel references in there but also a reference to Boba Fett. Please tell me he’s still dead. I don’t want him out of that damn pit and in TFA.

    • Marshall Says:

      I just read it. LOL indeed, though why the reviewer takes a swipe at AOTC (of all the prequels) is a mystery to me. Anyway, I’m going to read some other IGN reviews of the “canon” books.
      Daniels is tempting fate with his comments. I wouldn’t be surprised if nobody likes TFA and it flops at the box office, like another franchise Disney tried to resurrect. Can we say “Heigh Ho Silver! boys and girls?

      • Brian47 Says:

        Like it or not, TFA is going to be a huge success. It’s got a name brand presence in households worldwide and among members of any family from 8 to 80. Even if it drops off quickly, expect a massive profit for Disney. Regardless, they’re going to continue on the next era of movies and TV shows, plus the new park attraction, so there is no in hell they’d back off now, there is too much momentum.

      • Adam D. Bram (The Nilbog) Says:

        I loved “Lone Ranger”….

      • Noah Evans Says:

        The truth is, even if no one likes Force Awakens, if people paid to see it, they paid. Rather if they love or hate it, the fact is that they paid money, money that they can’t demand back. To support this claim, The Phantom Menace is the highest-grossing Star Wars film since 1999, yet has a harsh reputation from the internet and critics.

      • Noah Evans Says:

        However, Disney’s anti-prequel marketing could alienate a number of audiences, and if the movie is PG or PG-13, it is a sharp cut for the company since “PG” may disgust the “mature” grown up fans, but “PG-13” could lose the family audiences, so the film being less-financially-successful than hoped is a possibility.

      • Jim Raynor Says:

        I thought The Lone Ranger was underrated as well. It wasn’t awesome IMO, and I’m not exactly dying to see it again, but I thought it was a solid flick. It’s one of those movies that just unfortunately attracted a.bandwagon of vocal haters (like the Prequels). Also, its budget was just way too big. If it had made the same amount of money with a more reasonable budget of $100-120 million, people wouldn’t be calling it a flop.

      • Marshall Says:

        I thought “The Lone Ranger” was great as a western but it didn’t need the Lone Ranger brand to do it. Disney could’ve just built from scratch. Let’s also not forget the many baby-boomers that grew up with the tv show and were appalled that LR was reduced to a bumbling dunce. They may have been the ones who gave it a negative word of mouth. But at least the prequels have fans of all ages.

      • lazypadawan Says:

        Making the Lone Ranger a comedic character was a terrible miscalculation. If I was a baby boomer who had grown up with the LR as a hero, I’d be mad too. It’s like making Luke Skywalker or Indiana Jones a bumbling fool.

      • Jim Raynor Says:

        Box office is one gauge of mainstream reaction, although it doesn’t fully account for people who paid and hated a movie. To get a feel for word of mouth, you have to look at weekend-to-weekend drops.

        (The Phantom Menace actually opened modestly and had an extremely leggy run with small drops between weekends).

        Direct audience polling also exists and is used by the studios for market research. Google up TPM’s Gallup polling results (more than 80% positive) or go to the CinemaScore poll’s website to see its “A-” grade there.

        Don’t buy into the revisionist history from the vocal internet hatedom or the bandwagon geek media. Mainstream audiences don’t give a crap about CGI and they thought the Prequels were fine.

        You don’t sell tons of merchandise or make a successful multi season cartoon show spinning out of a bunch of movies that everyone hated.

      • lazypadawan Says:

        Jonathan Bowen’s book about TPM does a great job documenting all of this stuff.

      • Jim Raynor Says:

        The Force Awakens will no doubt be big. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s an Age of Ultron-like “disappointment”: hyped to the stratusphere by fanboy nation, but with a resulting box office that’s far short of their inflated expectations.

      • Noah Evans Says:

        JIm: Oh, I see.. thanks for the enlightenment, and pardon any ignorant matter I said.

  10. madmediaman Says:

    LOL, this doesn’t surprise me in the least. I’ve long suspected Daniels was a bit of an ungrateful jerk. He’s made comments over the years that sounded like sour grapes over various aspects of the Saga.

    Hey Anthony, more than likely the Saga, your involvement in it and subsequent spinoffs, has afforded you a lifestyle that probably allows you to never really work again. This is in contrast to the scores of other actors who have worked in the Saga that barely scrape by for work, and are usually reduced to frequent convention appearances.

    The more these actors and JJ sycophants like Pegg open their mouths the more and more they make me NOT want to see this picture… I’m already vacillating guys… keep your yaps shut, collect your check, and smile gratefully.

  11. Marshall Says:

    He worked on the sets of the prequels. He knew it wasn’t “all CGI” all the time. What a liar!

  12. Brian47 Says:

    Daniels, to me, also seems to be someone who just goes with what the crowd around him feels at that particular time. If he was interviewed by someone who made positive comments about the PT, he’d probably mirror those comments.

    • Wizardman Says:

      I was thinking the same thing. If the prequels were exactly as they are but had better reputations in the mainstream geekdom, I strongly suspect he would wax poetic about how artful and beautiful the effects and George’s intentions were.

  13. darth66zannah Says:

    So far all this Disney Star Wars stuff is really pissing me off and blows…Rebels season 1 was lame, all the Disney EU books except for Lords of the Sith and Dark Disciple are utterly forgettable and all this prequel bashing from the new film makers and authors is so stupid! WITHOUT THE SUCESS OF THE PREQUELS YOU WOULD HAVE NO JOB, YOU MORONS! That’s it…I’m done supporting Disney canon…yes, I’ll see TFA but I’m not paying for it! I’ll pay for another movie and sneak in…I can’t support this lack of professional conduct and disrespect to fans…

  14. Sergey Holod Says:

    In my experience actors are quite different people. The necessity to believe in any written text changes their minds. There is Sharon Stone bashing Paul Verhoeven for the infamous leg-crossing scene from “Basic Instinct”, and there is Sharon Stone praising him for it. Two different interviews – two different women. And I saw such a phenomenon quite a lot of times. One can say there are lots of mental prostitutes amongst actors. Many of them cannot live without adoration so they instinctively say what other people are expecting them to say.

    In some cases it is unforgivable, but… there it is.

    Yet with time all of this will be forgotten. Movies will stay. I should say good movies will stay. Art cannot be erased by some interview or even by lots of interviews.

    • Jim Raynor Says:

      The acting profession is known as a magnet for narcissists (what better way is there to attract attention and adoration than to star in a movie?) and I’ve seen that openly admitted during interviews with several actors. One of the known behaviors in narcissists is the way they latch on to ideas or people that they think will make them look smarter or give them more credibility. The actual validity of those things, or any real reasoning, is secondary. So it doesn’t surprise me when I see these supporting actors, who would have no careers outside of Star Wars, parroting these same tired talking points.

  15. John Jvm Stoley Says:

    Disney has been supporting and coaching people not to like the prequels since the purchase and it’s clear in most of the promo information and material, as is covered here. With that level of support for prequel bashing, I’m pretty sure that not only is it plausible Daniels has simply bought into it himself, but Disney probably is coaching the actors to believe this intentionally. t’s the opposite effect usually used on trying to market the movie to people.

    The emphasis on practical effects is a HUGE part of their outreach to older fans, and I think Disney hopes insisting upon the poor quality of the prequels will boost interest in their film and perceived quality.

    In addition, Daniels has previously stated he did not enjoy the puppetry work necessary to portray C-3PO in TPM and AOTC (before the scenes were replaced digitally when the subplot was cut) and had only a small role in ROTS. I don’t imagine that’s endeared him to those films.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      Someone on FB noted that Threepio had a role in the OT and that was as an interpreter/quasi-diplomat and Threepio’s role in the prequels was a less defined. Maybe he didn’t like that. I’m also aware he didn’t like the puppetry or that they had to CGI Threepio in one scene during the factory sequence in AOTC. Sure, they should’ve hanged him from real piece of moving machinery.

      • Keith Palmer Says:

        I suppose “Threepio’s treatment in the prequels” comes up infrequently enough as a subject of attack that I’m at least able to treat it as “something I kind of wish could have been different.”

  16. lovelucas Says:

    It’s shameful that Daniels could so quickly forget how George gave him his moment to “shine” in the prequels. Even devoted an entire chapter of the making of/behind the scenes vid to him. Anthony Daniels is a hypocrite, a liar and can be very offensive and “cold” to other races. I’ve attended 2 Celebrations with an African American friend and I was shocked at how he treated her and of course, so was she. Not only that – at CIV in LA, we made friends with one of the floor supervisors who confirmed that Daniels is more than a bit prejudiced, that he treated the little people who played the Ewoks so rudely that they pulled some sort of prank on him that caused him to be very angry and embarrassed but caused them to be very satisfied. What a pompous, self-serving suckup ass.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      Well, I’v got a story for you. I had an acquaintance who lived on Long Island; haven’t seen her in a while so I wonder if she’s still in the fandom. As an aside, she was probably the one person in Star Wars fandom who could claim Natalie’s dad as her doc and had been her physician even before Natalie became an actress and a celebrity. Even funnier her dermatologist was also friends with Natalie’s parents.

      Anyway, she was at Celebration IV and went to meet Anthony Daniels and get his autograph. She said he was “mean” and “rude.” I don’t remember too much the specifics but he really got grouchy when she asked to take a picture. I’ve heard the stories too from Official Pix volunteers who had to work with him. Very OCD and if you offend him, his assistants will put up the hand to mean you’re dismissed.

      • lovelucas Says:

        Thanks for that story LP – more evidence that Daniels is just who we think he is. I know volunteers have to be diplomatic but yes, Daniels is not a popular draw for them at all.

    • Noah Evans Says:

      So Anthony is racist toward those of African decent and skin color?… I now wonder what his opinions are around his two Prequel co-stars Samuel L. Jackson and Ahmed Best… heck, even classic-trilogy star Billy D. Williams.

  17. lovelucas Says:

    Forgot to add this: During the filming of RotS there was that scene where Daniels in 3PO gear fell on the set and Ewan and Natalie (who seem to be basically kind-hearted peeps) covered their mouths trying to stop laughing. He wasn’t hurt but man, was he pissed. Within the last year or so when Hayden and Daniels found themselves on the same talk show Hayden made them mistake of mentioning that incident and Daniels was so angry he said something really cruel back to Hayden – can’t remember exactly what it was but he was no gentleman. I don’t believe he actually has a sense of humor at all.

    • lovelucas Says:

      Now I remember the insult – he noted that Hayden wasn’t really working on any new projects as a slap to his face for bringing up the fall incident. ASS.

      • Jim Raynor Says:

        Wow, he comes across like a real jerk. That’s also some pretty big talk for someone whose career is basically “playing C-3PO” and “voicing C-3PO in Star Wars cartoons and video games.” Hayden at least physically appears in most of his movies, and he’s had the leading roles and Golden Globe nomination that Daniels will never have.

      • Nick Skywalker Says:

        Now that’s just low. And completely untrue. I hate when bashes try to act like SW ruined Hayden’s career and he doesn’t work. He’s done plenty since SW. Definitely more than Daniels has…and probably will.

  18. Hunk a Junk Says:

    Disappointing. And cowardly. Daniels wouldn’t dare make such comments when Lucas was his meal ticket. And you know how Lucas is going to respond to all this? He’ll say nothing. Because people with class aren’t born with it, they show it.

  19. Nick Skywalker Says:

    He may be “entitled” to his opinion but that doesn’t mean he should open his mouth to say it, especially given the position he’s in. He would be nowhere without GL and SW and the very least he can do is show some respect.

    There’s an old saying that you can’t empower yourself by bringing down others and this rings true as TFA hype really starts to blow up. They don’t have to say mean things about the prequels to make TFA look better. If TFA truly is good, it will shine on its own merit. I’m not one to speculate or, for lack of better word, be a conspiracy theorist but things like this are exactly why people think there’s an “anti prequel” vendetta at Disney these days.

  20. Chris N. Says:

    Hypocritical bantha poodoo.

  21. rynnbowers Says:

    The more I read everyday about TFA and all this just reinforces my determination to not have anything to do with this new film. As I explained to a friend recently…this new film has caused a major disturbance if you will with all the talk of how its going back to the originals and all that, as far as I am concerned or in my own little piece of world…the same ended with RotJ. This new film is just a fan made project that is irrelevant to what we all know and love.

    I grew up with the prequels..episode 1 being my very first star wars film. This prequel hate is ridiculous already. I dont like the originals all that much, but I dont go around bashing them and putting them down evetyone I talk star wars. If someone brings them up I talk with about them and dont dis them at all. They are still a part of the star wars saga.

    Whats interesting is recently I read article…a long one..but it brings up the Ring Theory in the star wars saga. Which actually makes sense and is insightful about the 6 films that GL made. Adding in this new film, I dont know how it would tie into the films before it. This is the link if anyone is interested. But it talks about how stuff in the prequels mirrors stuff in the OT.

    Sorry about the rant…I am just upset about all this stuff and this really needs to stop. Anthony Daniels is entitled to his opinions i agree, but this has been as far as most know the only thing he is credible for. For him to bad mouth someone that gave him the job he has today and kept him well off for most of his life he really should be more thankful and a lot less high and mighty.

    • Jacobesico Says:

      That sums up my feelings on TFA and the Prequels as well. I won’t consider it “Canon”. To me it’s just licensed fanfiction for those “fans” that hated the prequels.

      I grew up watching the Special Editions and I consider the Prequels to me my trillogy. I remember getting excited seeing the young Obi-Wan in 1999. Seeing Yoda and The Emperor weilding a Lightsaber, seeing the ARC 170s and thinking that they were X-Wings.

      And Darth Maul’s Lightsaber over that Kyle Ren’s anytime.

      But I don’t care about all this “pratical effects” rubbish. It doesn’t matter to me whether the movie was made digitally or with pratical effects. I bet that this was JJ or Kennedy leaning on Tony Daniels like with Peter Mayhew.

      As for the ring theroy, I couldn’t help but notice the simularities between the Ewoks in Episode 6 and the Gungans in Episode 1.

      But I was never really that fond on Daniels after hearing about him treating Kenny Baker like rubbish anyway.

  22. zch81721 Says:

    Well first off it’s the guardian, that’s your first problem. I have heard stories though that he is a real pain in the ass though.

  23. James Says:

    I am seriously tempted to boycott the movie, why should I give haters my money? To bad I couln’t if I tried. ITS STAR WARS AFTER ALL! Though if they make any veague references to th PT in the vain of hate (ex. Jar Jars Skeloten) I WILL boycott the next one.

    • Chris N. Says:

      Is it Star Wars though? Of course, it depends on what you consider to be Star Wars. To me, it’s not enough to simply have ‘Star Wars’ in the title. I’ve made the decision of not giving them any of my money. They’ve made an effort to market it against me.

      • Jim Raynor Says:

        I’ll give it a chance, and the new movie could very well be good. Abrams is a skilled filmmaker even if he relies too much on hype and pastiche, and isn’t the deepest of thinkers (see Super 8, his Star Trek movies).

        However, The Force Awakens just might have the most hollow and annoying marketing campaign of any big scifi movie in recent years. No teasing of the story, or any of the new characters. Trailers that are beyond vague. Passive aggressive dog whistle shots at the Prequels. The “Practical effects” meme that strangely isn’t used when talking about any other scifi/fantasy blockbuster.

        They’ve given the fandom nothing besides pandering to its most hateful elements. They expect millions of people to see the movie just because it has the “Star Wars” brand name attached to it.

      • lovelucas Says:

        I will see the film – but not in the first weekend where it counts. I won’t be buying anything else at all. Today – opening day for all the razz ma tazz – well, it feels soooo much overload. Slocking for lack of a better word. It’s freaking everywhere – Pennys, Kohl’s, Kmart, Target (of course), generic grocery stores – and they haven’t even begun yet – there will be the fast food items (although Burger King seems to be sinking fast) but you can pick up TFA back to school stuff everywhere. The merchandise is created by non-SW peeps, it feels – they’re not “getting it” – But…I did intentionally wear a prequel SW shirt today as I traveled around for errands and when a clerk asked me if I had been in line overnight to pick up the merchandise I flat out said that I was boycotting all TFA merchandise since those who are involved do not respect George Lucas and he freaking applauded! Not only that – I had an electrician in yesterday for consultation and it turns out he’s a huge SW fan – a PREQUEL fan (and not so much a fan of the OT) and accepted for payment a copy of John Knoll’s “Creating the Worlds of Star Wars – 365 Days” (I buy this over and over again off Ebay and I distribute it likewise). He was STOKED and asked if I would take his photo with my full-sized Yoda in my SW room. He said his kids will be so excited. Freaking made my day, made my week, made my month.

      • lazypadawan Says:

        Heh heh, great story about bartering services for Star Wars stuff.

        I remember feeling similarly overwhelmed when I saw that first wave of TPM-related stuff. I had never seen that much Star Wars merchandise and for the first time I realized I couldn’t buy everything coming off the assembly line. It made things a lot easier now! My thing now is buying wearable or practical stuff and things that go for the feels instead of just loading up on action figures and the like.

        In any case, Subway will be doing the fast food tie-in. My waist line and arteries are relieved.

      • Marshall Says:

        I bought a Dark Horse Star Wars Omnibus from Barnes and Noble and I told the cashier about how much I miss Dark Horse Star Wars. She added: “I don’t know about that new lightsaber (indicating Kylo Ren’s).” I shrugged and replied, “yeah, I don’t know about it either.”

      • Noah Evans Says:

        Lovelucas that’s amazing =D

      • Jim Raynor Says:

        Great anecdotes, lovelucas! Prequel fans can be found in real life, not internet comment threads.

      • Stefan Kraft Says:

        I had an interesting discussion (?) today: long story short, I think that the other person (a friend of a friend of mine) does not hold a grudge against the prequels. He was however happy that Abrams has returned to “old school” effects like masks. (I mentioned that TFA will also feature two CGI characters, but only at the end of the discussion, and that masks were also used in the PT.)
        If I have understood him correctly, his preference for “old school effects” is due to the fact that SW has an “old school” feeling of the 70s/80s to him because of the effects that were used back then. IMHO quite subjective, but a legit (not mine) point of view.
        I would say that he and I only differ in details and that we are on the same page. For instance, he was also a bit disapponted that GL is no longer involved, and he was not that impressed by the trailers.
        In retrospect, I think it was good that the discussion turned to other topics after a bit because I probably became a bit too aggressive in the defense of the PT special effects. Anyway, his “subjective preference for ‘old school’ effects” was something I had not met elsewhere, and it shows that a) the SW fandom is even more pluralistic than you would imagine, and that b) most people (like the person I talked to) are not haters and have a healthy “live and let live” attitude.

      • lazypadawan Says:

        The thing that’s funny is I remember when “old school” was VERY new school.

      • Stefan Kraft Says:

        BTW, I’d say that Jim Raynor’s comment (“I’ll give it a chance, and the new movie could very well be good. Abrams …”) is almost exactly what I think.

      • Stefan Kraft Says:

        @LP: Yes, but not for someone of my age (millennial).

      • Frida Nyberg Says:

        There’s the same strange thing in the Jurassic Park franchise. When the first film came, the dinosaurs were new and revolutionary. And there were plenty of people who whined and cried that “NO! Dinosaurs are supposed to be slow, sluggish, stupid reptiles! You are raping my childhood with these fast and intelligent things!”

        So when it was discussed why Jurassic World won’t have feathers, it was the same thing. “I refuse to believe dinosaurs had feathers, because it rapes my childhood!” *Cry* *Whine*

        So Jurassic World decided on being cowardly and unoriginal, having “old school” dinosaurs, while JP1 was original and revolutionary, and changed the way the public viewed dinosaurs.

        And it’s the same with Star Wars. Episode IV-VI were new and revolutionary (as was the prequels in a way), but the hateboys and makers of the new trilogy decide on “going back to the 70s”, because it “makes them feel like kids again”.

        So childish, stupid and cowardly.

      • M. Marshall Says:

        But at least Jurassic World explained why it didn’t give dinosaurs feathers. They’re more “chimeras” than real dinosaurs (even the dinos in JP were not authentic dinosaurs). If anything it was the snooty scientific community that made a big stink about the lack of feathers on velociraptors, yet they forget that the first film made the raptors bigger than they really were.

      • Stefan Kraft Says:

        I am sure that there are enough people around that absolutely insist that SW must not have to do anything with CGI. The person I talked to wasn’t a hateboy, however. His view was probably rather a matter of taste and of positive nostalgia. Again, not what I think, but I do not have a problem to agree to disagree with the person I talked to.

  24. Hunk a Junk Says:

    I totally respect Anthony Daniels’ principled stand against the prequels about as much as I expect him to return his paychecks and residuals he happily collects for them.

  25. piccolojr1138 Says:

    I fully understand your reasons to be angry, because this man seeks fans’ money at the conventions, including prequels fans’ money.

    For my concern, I don’t really care. Actors are just tools for the director, and I never really understood all the idolatry around them.

  26. Nick Skywalker Says:

    Gotta say I do agree with him about the secrecy. It is ridiculous and getting more ridiculous as December 18th is almost 3 months away and we still know nothing. But he can cool it with the prequel hate. I’m sure he appreciated the work and funds that they provided him with. George could have just done 3PO completely CGI for the prequels but he didn’t.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      I had a thought today while looking over the Force Friday merchandise online. Aside from the Spero BB-8 and the usual toy collect-o-holics who will geek out over anything new, I don’t see how consumers are supposed to connect with totally new and unfamiliar characters or a movie they won’t see for three months. With TPM it was different. Everybody knew Anakin was going to be Darth Vader and Queen Amidala was going to be Luke and Leia’s mother. Everybody knew who Obi-Wan was. There were two trailers out by the time the merchandise dropped and most people had some feel for the film even if they weren’t following spoilers. And the merchandise appeared in stores just over two weeks before the film came out. We know the names of these characters and what side they’re on but absolutely nothing else. How are any of them connected to the Skywalker family? Even “Rebels” manages to connect with the prequels/Clone Wars and the OT. I hope to get more details with a new trailer but given this is Mr. Mystery Box, we’ll have to see. If you ask me, Force Friday should’ve been on Black Friday: a short time before release and just in time for Christmas.

      • jarjarbacktattooguy Says:

        Yeah, Disney really jumped the gun on Midnight Madness this time. Who, except the most hardcore could get excited this far from the release date? I guess their share holders couldn’t wait to milk their cash cow.

        The Episode I merch release date was perfect because they made you wait until two weeks before the premiere, but released most of the stuff all at once.

        I really have no idea if I am seeing the movie at all yet, so it’s too early for me to think about the merchandise.

        I am assuming they are holding back on the more spoiler-ish merch. If so, then this isn’t really like the other Midnight Madness’ at all. I guess we can expect one or two more Force Fridays before the theatrical release, haw!

        This shows that Disney, with all their high paid lawyers, don’t understand marketing as well as Lucas did.

        As for Daniels…you know he’s still pissed about getting replaced by a puppet in TPM.

      • Jim Raynor Says:

        The whole enterprise is putting the cart before the horse. “Buy our stuff ’cause it’s Star Wars!” Thing is, I don’t know anything about these characters or the movie they’re in. I’m not so easily manipulated into spending my money on them, even if I’ve spent my money on plenty of other fanboy things.

        We’re seeing some rather blatant commercialism here, the type of stuff that internet fanboys accused Lucas of but have always shelled out money for.

      • lazypadawan Says:

        If nothing else, I’m happy to see so much new stuff from the movies I know I already like. The only TFA items I got today were a Funko Pop figure from Hot Topic and some of the Cover Girl nail polish. The colors were already available at Target, just without the Star Wars stickers. Everything else I bought or that caught my eye were from the existing films.

      • zch81721 Says:

        I remember 2 months ago I was just think and I realized “I know absolutely nothing about this movie.” As we’ve seen with films like John Carter vagueness tends to not be a good marketing strategy. Sure Star Wars will still make a lot more money than John Carter but don’t be surprised if some families don’t go. We know nothing about the new characters and kids these days don’t give a shit that you have the original trip back.

      • lovelucas Says:

        Some of the ads show stormtroopers with….lightsabers! And using them. Like I said, marketing doesn’t know SW

  27. bansheegun Says:

    “We’re using Windows! Real WINDOWS!!!!!”

  28. Tyler Johnson Says:

    Story of Daniels not invited to C3 for being a ‘pompous @$$’

  29. Simon Maxwell Says:

    Daniels comes off as a right idiot here. I believe other prequel actors (eg McGregor and Jackson) had the grace not to slag off the prequels during interviews, even when the interviewer was trying to get them to.

    As for his nonsense claim of most sets being CGI, off the top of my head I can think of only two sets that were entirely CGI – The Geonosis droid factory and the Geonosis arena in which the Jedi fought the droids. In any case, I doubt Daniels worked on a fully green screen set, as I think most of 3PO’s scenes were on partial or full sets.

    • Wizardman Says:

      Actually, the arena was a huge miniature model. It was beautiful. They also used a few miniatures for some of the droid factory backgrounds, but that indeed was mostly CG.

      • Simon Maxwell Says:

        The arena was a miniature, yes, but the set on which McGregor, Jackson, Portman etc shot their arena footage was an almost entirely blue screen set.

      • Stefan Kraft Says:

        Would be interesting whether this could have done differently than having a blue screen. (I am just curious, I do not want to collect material to tell some hateboys “you see, even Abrams would have used a blue screen here.”)

      • morejawajuiceforme Says:

        Simon: You said it was entirely CG, which they weren’t. The background was a physical model, and the actors had the floors and some bits of scenery to work with (like the giant pillars the acklay knocks down).

        Stefan: Yeah, I’m sure they could have built a much smaller arena set, at least halfway up, and fill out the rest in long shots with miniatures or CG. The problem would be that it wouldn’t be as big an area for an epic battle, and they would basically be using the exact same techniques anyway. :/

      • morejawajuiceforme Says:

        This is Wizardman, btw. Just had to make a new account. 😛

  30. rhtm1970 Says:

    If anyone is interested, in the Making of Empire Strikes Back coffee table book there is a point in there where it says that both Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford complained about the blue screen work they had to do. I don’t own the book or I would quote the page number but obviously according to them I guess the originals had too much CGI also. lol Also, I remember when I was a kid almost every adult I knew acted like the originals were nothing but special effects extravaganzas meant for kids. Why can’t JJ and Disney just make a Star Wars movie and let us enjoy it like we’ve enjoyed all six of the other ones?

  31. Sergey Holod Says:

    I don’t know whether my thoughts belong to this topic, but here it is:

    There is one the most important aspect of the whole problem: it is George Lucas and his ILM who made visual effects economical and therefore accessible to modern filmmakers. In the early days of ILM only closest friends of George Lucas (like Steven Spielberg) could afford to use ILM’s innovations. For a long time “Star Wars” was the only movie with perfectly executed visual effects of impeccable reality. Nowadays 100% of movies are perfect in terms of technical execution. One can argue that not all of them were made by ILM. But look at the end credits of “Episode IV A New Hope”! John Dykstra has founded Apogee, Richard Edlund has founded Boss Films, Phil Tippett has founded Tippett Studio, Ken Ralston became a president of Sony Pictures Imageworks! The seed of ILM is everywhere. The seed of Lucasfilm’s Computer Research and Development Division is everywhere. Did we hear everyday gratitude towards George Lucas for his enthusiasm about quality in demonstration of movies? Hardly anyone realizes that he spent his own money for THX researches, for digital projection researches, for digital camera researches – things we take for granted nowadays. Hardly anyone realizes that modern non-linear editing hardware and software that anyone can use nowadays is in fact direct legacy of his EditDroid and SoundDroid technologies. Hardly anyone knows that he was founded Pixar.

    To what end I’m saying this?

    All this towering lies about George Lucas made it impossible to believe in modern Lucasfilm.

    “Star Wars” was always the epitome of visual effects. “Star Wars” was the frontier of visual effects’ possibilities. “Star Wars” popularized interest of average moviegoer towards technical side of cinema. Suddenly artists of the movie became nearly as popular as actors. Is there any other movie that has so many documentaries or books about its creation?

    And now all this is throwing “under the bus”. Progress of visual effects is now anathema. People who pushed forward limits of visual effects are now burning in fire of “fandom” hatred.

    What it is for me?

    I know I will probably watch future “Star Wars” movies, but I also know that I definitely won’t buy any of future “The Art of Star Wars” or “The Making of Star Wars” books released by Disney. I will ignore all future documentaries about future “Star Wars” Episodes because of all these lies. As Ellen Ripley could not believe in words of Ash’s creator in the end of “Alien 3” hence I can’t believe in any of Lucasfilm’s words about their own work.

    The history of Lucasfilm as an independent studio whose people are known to be pioneers of cinema magic is ended for me. This is sad.

    But those of you who aren’t pessimistic as I am must consider this: all those visual effects artists who worked on “Star Wars” have also worked on other projects. Yet it seems to me that only “Star Wars” have realized all or their capabilities. Why is that?

    Those of you who have watched “From Puppets to Pixels” documentary or listen carefully to audio commentaries to “Revenge of the Sith” may know the answer. Here George Lucas who is endlessly improving the expression of Yoda’s face during his “Begun the Clone War has” speech. Who else will spend so much time (and money) for a subtlety such as this? Here we see a casual conversation between Anakin and Obi-Wan in the beginning of “Revenge of the Sith” after their victorious return to Coruscant and suddenly Rick McCallum is announcing that this scene was hardest to make because of lighting issues and so on. What? So much effort to make this less than a minute scene perfect? For a scene which could be even cut without any real damage to overall story?

    If J.J. Abrams or any other future Lucasfilm director will show such devotion towards reality of “Star Wars” then “Star Wars” is in safe hands. If all those visual effects artists will show similar enthusiasm to astonish any future Lucasfilm director as they did with George Lucas then “Star Wars” is in safe hands.

    But personally I don’t believe in this outcome.

    One cannot just buy inspiration. One cannot just pay to receive a masterpiece in return. The artist must have a desire to create something for you. Something special. Something extraordinary. It seems to me George Lucas have this inspirational power. The proof is in his movies. Similar people often could not achieve similar results under different directors.

    So, even though “Star Wars” is no longer George Lucas’, it will survive – but only if people who inherited it will show their desire to maintain the same level of artistic perfection and artistic daring on every level, technical or imaginative, as George Lucas showed and all his colleagues during his time.

    • lovelucas Says:

      Excellent post full of irrefutable facts. Okay to save, copy and reference? Thank you so much, S.H. and also Lazypadawan for gathering us, for providing for us. Hope you know how much we appreciate you and our place. Feels like we have a Goonie-house meeting place.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      With Lucas retired, I think the only major director left who will push the medium and push effects forward is James Cameron.

      Have you read “Droidmaker?” It’s really a fascinating and very fair look at Lucasfilm, the roots of Pixar and ILM, etc..

      • Sergey Holod Says:

        I believe I own every single one of non-fictional books concerning history of Lucasfilm, its movies and companies – from children’s step-up book “Star Wars: The Making of the Movies” and more serious one “Once Upon A Galaxy: A Journal of The Making of The Empire Strikes Back” (both released in 1980) to recent “Star Wars Costumes. The Original Trilogy”.

        Michael Rubin in the beginning of his “Droidmaker” book wrote: “Everywhere I turned were reminders of those days – Pixar movies, THX logos, epic blockbusters with computer-generated characters, immensive multi-user videogames, a host of consumer software for editing, sound and graphics – but few people I spoke with realized how much had come directly from Lucasfilm research.”

        It is exactly the reason why I have decided to write my own book about history of Lucasfilm which I did for my friends and students 3 years ago. I live in Russia, and we do not have your “Original Trilogy versus Prequels” problem. Partly, because nobody has seen “Star Wars” in Soviet times, and partly, because we love multiple editions. It is no big deal whatsoever if there is more than one version of a movie or any other artwork. There are 8 different versions of Tolstoy’s “War and Piece”. Different people like different versions. Some people like to compare.

        Recently I have shown all six Episodes of “Star Wars” – from I to VI – to my young friend who is 16 years old and who know nothing about visual effects’ nature. Whether it was CGI or practical models – he noticed only diminishing of scale between Episode III and IV, yet he said it was justified by the story; he hadn’t noticed any diminishing in terms of spirit or quality of the movie. People I know have no idea about the conflict that exists in USA, and when I try to explain them its nature they can’t understand me.

        I suppose Prequels will always be the same thing for certain group of “Star Wars” fans as Yoko Ono for certain group of “The Beatles” fans. But George Lucas is not John Lennon. Lucas is too gentle to say to his fans to piss off if they don’t like what he is doing. Lucas has stepped away. Yet even Lennon with his robust spirit was forced to step away either. It was very painful for me to watch certain scenes in Andrew Solt’s documentary “Imagine John Lennon”. I never realized that such a cruelty from fans can exist. Everyone who has seen this documentary must remember how Lennon put NY Times reporter Gloria Emerson in her place. Once again George Lucas is too soft to deal with such abominable creatures such as Howard Stern to defend himself.

        Funny enough this situation with George Lucas is wonderfully depicted in the recent literary masterpiece. And very popular one either. Here it is Rita Skeeter who writes her “The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore” in which everything is true, and yet – nothing is true. We can’t say Disney’s “practical effects campaign” is lie, and yet – it is nothing but lie in terms of how they tell this sort of truth.

        And the sad thing is that, as we know, Rita Skeeter’s poison can harm even the toughest of souls who full of love. These falsely told truths can deceit and make doubts.

      • Bob Clark Says:

        Very good comparison. I often make the comparison that PT Lucas is kinda like Dylan when he went electric. There’s the same type of old-style zealousness when it comes to practical effects and accoustic folk.

  32. Alessio Pasquali Says:

    Alright, listen guys, I am one who loves all Star Wars (PT and OT) and I do feel Anthony’s comments are a little questionable. But, try to see this from another perspective. In one episode of RebelForce Radio from July 31st, 2015, a caller, though excited for TFA, asked Jimmy Mac and Jason Swank if all the practical effects talk is to say the Prequels suck. They say not necessarily. They’re just saying it because the way Hollywood industries has abused digital technology has become far too popular especially with seeing how far VFX can be pushed in films like Godzilla, Man of Steel or San Andreas, even TPM. It just seems that as the VFX gets pushed, the story gets lost in the process. So, that’s why they’re blending CG with real sets and practical effects, to make the movie seem authentic. Yes, it may seem questionable especially when they say at SDCC that they treat 4-6 as canon, but, they’re not saying the PT sucked, they’re just trying hard to make the story not get lost while making this movie. And, yes, I know you guys complain that and we are all aware that there were heaps of both models and real sets in the PT, especially in TPM and AOTC. But, though I like them, there was a certain lack of reality about the clones and stuff that some like myself could never lose sight of. Especially the battle droids as well. And, some of those sets in the PT, though we’re practical and shot on film as evidenced in TPM and in some scenes in AOTC, were digitally scanned in to the set as evidenced in the ROTS scene over Mustafar, they did make a real volcano, but they scanned it in to fit with the scene. And, when they shoot it like that in front of blue screen as compared to actors interacting on set, it’s NOT necessarily bad, but it’s different. I mean look at Marvel. Don’t get me wrong I love all their films, Guardians of the Galaxy being my #1 favorite of them all, but they can have the guilty pleasure of CG VFX. I mean u think that last Avengers film had a tidy ending, nope. So, we start seeing like a pissing contest to see how far grand they can make VFX, and the storytelling gets lost in the process. So, try to be a little more open-minded about this, because when I read posts like this from the guy who makes these articles, they sound like OT and ST and Star Wars Spinoff bashers. The point is these films will be different, but it’s like the PT was different from the OT just as the ST will be different from both the PT and OT, but it will still be Star Wars like all the other 6 films were Star Wars. Plus, for people thinking there may be no connection to the PT in TFA or the other upcoming ST and/or Star Wars spinoff films, look very closely in the first teaser trailer from November and freeze frame during certain bits of the SDCC BTS-sizzle reel for TFA. You will see a podracer and a podracer engine in the first teaser trailer, and in the sizzle reel you’ll see art of a dude with a pit droid head, R2-KT from The Clone Wars TV series. So, for those of u that think no PT connections will be in the ST, think again. Plus, to the guy who said he won’t see Rogue One, because Gary Whitta and Chris Weitz bash the Prequels, I hope you have your opinions changed now after what you’ve seen and heard about it being a Death Star plans heist film. Plus, I hear the plans will still be the way they were as presented in AOTC. So, please try to write your articles in a more respectful way like Dominic Jones’ “Respect the Mythology” article is written. K. Thanks. May the Force Be With You. Always.

    -Alessio “Al Patrickson” Pasquali

    • lazypadawan Says:

      First no need to post a response like 30 times because I moderate all comments and I barely chose to post yours. Another guy wrote a long piece too but I felt it was a tad bit more anti-PT/potentially insulting to readers than yours.

      It’s fine if you think the “practical” spiel is not necessarily aimed at the prequels but the whole argument that special effects/visual effects are overwhelming storytelling has been around since the ’80s. It’s not anything new. Why bring it up now and in what relation to other films? The MCU? Are they’re knocking a sister studio’s films? The Transformer movies? Those made a lot of bank and there are plenty of people who love them. If it’s not aimed at the prequels why doesn’t Lucasfilm come out and say so, especially since it’s not just the denizens at SWPAS who think so, but a lot of the media too, few of which are prequel fans?

      R2KT originates with the 501st, named for its founder’s late daughter. It wasn’t created for Clone Wars.

      Lastly, I DO write in a respectful way. 90% of what I write is about the prequel films themselves. Why not read stuff like my Great Scenes of the Prequel Trilogy series instead of only coming over for the red meat? Nobody is above criticism around here. And ultimately it’s up to an individual fan to support or not support what he or she wants to. If it was fine for bashers to attack the prequel films, George Lucas, the actors, the behind the scenes people, and fans who loved those films and on top of that sneeringly tell us “the prequels don’t exist” and “you’re not real fans” then I don’t understand the trend now of poking a cattle prod into prequel fans to support the new regime.

    • piccolojr1138 Says:

      This réconciliation mantra doesn’t make any sense ! Abrams and Kennedy said many times that they wanted to be faithful to the original trilogy. Not to the whole saga, only to the original trilogy. They are grown people, they know what they’re saying, they don’t need anyone to speak for them and to tell that they are secretly inspired by the prequels too.

      I am very enthusiastic for TFA. I can stand a filmmaker who doesn’t care about the things I care about. The Lucas’ saga is complete since 2005, this is another thing, I can deal with it. I don’t need any falsehood about their secret love for the whole saga,.when the only reference made by the filmmaker is Jar-Jar’s bones.

  33. Stefan Kraft Says:

    C-3PO is my favourite SW character (I won’t write here why this is the case 😉 ; everyone has her/his favourite 🙂 ). I therefore just want to add my two cents to Daniels’s statements.
    ” ‘George has changed a lot over the years but I think he finds it slightly hard to collaborate,’ Daniels observes. ‘He made decisions that I believe might have been better discussed with other people. JJ is more collaborative. He likes to listen.’ ”
    This comment is not completely bad – people *do* change over the years. However, he should *at least* have added something like “I have huge respect for Lucas, regardless of his decisions.” Even if only to thank GL for what the maker has done for him, and because Daniels is a Lucasfilm representative. (Granted, Anthony may have said something positive, and it may have been cut from the final version of the article.)
    Anyway, the last sentence may implicitly be read as “GL has lost his way, but JJ finally corrects SW.”
    By the way, the makers of TFA may like to listen, but they do not seem to ask GL… Hmm… (I do not necessarily blame JJ for this, but rather the Disney suits.)

    ” ‘Ah, the prequels,’ says Daniels ruefully. ‘Hmm. I turned one on the other night. Sky seems to have devoted a whole channel to them.’ He leaves no doubt that this is a risible state of affairs.”
    Anthony, I do not ask you to like the prequels, but show some class. Show some respect for the hard work other people have put into these 3 movies. Talk about the good experiences you had during the shooting. Or do it at least because you are aware that there is a large portion of fandom that enjoys these movies.

    “He gives a shudder when mentioning the Ewoks, the teddy-bear tribe from Return of the Jedi, and claims to have been unimpressed by the lurch in the prequels toward fully digital sets. ‘The effects are clever but pointless. The skill is there, but so what? Coldness, that’s the word. Bleakness, even.’ ”
    An ewok joke? Oh, come on… As for the “fully digital sets,” you could of course make a thoughtful statement that there is the risk that “fully digital sets” may not always be the best solution, and that EP III sometimes used them too much (just a hypothetical point of view, not what I think.) Unfortunately, Daniels IMHO bashes digital effects in general and the prequels here with “coldness” and “bleakness.”

    ” ‘All the signs are that The Force Awakens will be different. It became clear early on that with JJ we were getting back to the old-fashioned kind of film-making. We have walls. Actual sets! All right, so you might not have a view out of the window, but you have a window.’ ”

    See above. Unfortunately, right out of the “evil” Disney marketing machinery.

    A final note: Yes, C-3PO did not have as much to do in the PT as in the OT, and I can understand if Daniels was disappointed by this. And if he has additional reasons not to like these 3 movies, I’m fine with that. But as LP and others have written here, Daniels should show some class – like Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen, and Ahmed Best, of whom I have never heard something negative despite all the bashing they had to endure.

  34. ladylavinia1932 Says:

    Daniels had a lot to do in the second half of AOTC.

  35. John Kramer Says:

    Mr Plinkett and his right-hand Svib Editz corrupted Anthony Daniels, one of the most classical actors ever.

  36. lisse Says:

    I could get drunk every time I hear people salivate over ‘practical effects’ again.

    I honestly don’t care if something is CGI or practical effects. I really really don’t. Maybe that makes me unlettered among this widening group of self-appointed film critics on the internet, but that’s how I feel. Is this some next level hipster nonsense because I don’t get it.

    I’m not surprised by Anthony Daniels’ statements as he’s kinda given me that vibe for some time now.

  37. lazypadawan Says:

    Here’s the Latin Post’s take:

    • Sergey Holod Says:

      Here’s the first comment on this article. Someone named Tweck wrote:

      “Also, there’s bound to be some CGI (though I’d like it if you point out the CGI in the trailers, because if it’s there I can’t tell), but get real. Just acting on real sets and using miniatures and models is going to be a MAJOR plus in these movies. MAJOR”

      The question is: can you have a conversation with these brainwashed people? will they listen to reason?

      It is hopeless. Just hopeless. There is no chance one can convince them about practical effects on Prequels. They are deaf to reason.

      Where is CGI in trailer?

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