Movie Novelizations = Canon (Sorta)

Fans wondered where in the annals of canon do the various movie novelizations stand? Del Rey answered via Twitter that they are indeed canon too. When people started pointing out that there were things in the novelizations, especially the older ones, that currently don’t make sense with the saga, Del Rey helpfully posted this tweet in response:


15 Responses to “Movie Novelizations = Canon (Sorta)”

  1. Mike Sidious Says:

    So where does that leave the Darth Plagueis novel?

    • lazypadawan Says:

      Not really sure.

    • peacetrainjedi Says:

      Since it contains so many explicit EU references, it would be “Legends.” All EU before this announcement suffers the same fate – including the more recent Plagueis and Kenobi novels, good as they might be. This doesn’t mean we need to throw it out the window right away though. Unless something in the future explicitly contradicts it, it could still hold up in your own personal head-canon. But then, that’s all subjective. Most of the EU that’s not post-Return of the Jedi is in that grey area now. Technically it’s all non-canon, but realistically it can still have “happened” until something openly contradicts it.

      In short, the only real canon thing concerning Plagueis as of right now is Palpatine’s speech in Revenge of the Sith.

      • M. Marshall Says:

        Lucas did reveal to the author that Darth Plagueis was a Muun.

      • peacetrainjedi Says:

        Great point, but is Lucas’s word (outside of the films directly) still canon in this “new” canon? Is Plagueis still a Muun? According to this new framework Disney has just set up, Darth Bane was just another one of Lucas’s ideas (just like Lucas’s story drafts for the new episodes are just ideas) until Bane showed up in an episode of the canon Clone Wars show. That appearance was what made him canon. So unless Plagueis himself appears as a Muun in a ,future canon show/book/whatever, Disney could potentially change everything about him (that wasn’t in Episode III). I don’t see why they would, but stranger things have happened.

        I’m sure we can safely call Plagueis a Muun until Disney decides to contradict it (if they ever chose to). Just to make things less confusing, I’ll just keep what I know of the character in my own head-canon until it is contradicted in the future. Who knows, large swaths of the EU might never be contradicted in the future, meaning they all could have happened.

        We won’t have a better idea of what elements of the old canon will trickle into the new until several years (or more) have passed. Honestly it’s all up to how much the new creators want to incorporate the past into the future.

  2. Kenny Kraly Jr Says:

    Good news to hear.

    • oxward321 Says:

      I’ve never considered the EU as canon. If it dosen’t come from George it’s just an imitation. No matter how good some of it is.

      • M. Marshall Says:

        You’d be surprised.

      • oxward321 Says:

        I’ve read a ton of the EU none of it I found as interesting as the six films and Clone Wars.

      • M. Marshall Says:

        I was actually referring to the part about “if it doesn’t come from George”. Lucas lent a lot of involvement in the EU, even coming up with storylines like “The Force Unleashed” and “Shadows of the Empire”. I have a bad feeling that in hindsight Lucas’ involvment in the EU will be far more prevalent than in this upcoming trilogy.

  3. Simon Maxwell Says:

    This whole Disney expanded universe being 100% canon thing is one big mess. They’re just creating problems for themselves in the future. Writers of future films and TV series are going to find themselves restricted by all these 100% canon novels and comics. Lucas was not restricted by existing novels and comics when he made the prequels. I can foresee Disney changing their canon policy at some point in the next few years.

    • Tarrlok Says:

      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

      Alternatively, the more things are changed, the less onlookers will trust those making the changes when they make promises of permanence.

      This all reeks of an overreaction to the perceived canon disputes that flared up every so often in the 2000s. While I think it’s fair enough that the post-ROTJ continuity is being shelved to make room for the sequels, just as anything treading in the arena of the Clone Wars and the final years of the Old Republic was shelved to make room for the prequels, this promotion of tie-in stories to high-level canon makes little sense. As you say, they will not be adhered to, and a tiered structure will have to be reintroduced.

  4. M. Marshall Says:

    This now leaves me with a new question: will the powers that be regularly consult with Lucas when it comes to the consistency and accuracy of these “canon” novels?

    • peacetrainjedi Says:

      I hope so, but I’m not hedging my bets. He should be the go-to guy for any Star Wars question – film or book or whatever related. We just don’t know if that will actually pan out.

  5. james Says:

    I prefer the movies over the novels. The novels are to closly tied to the eu in my opinion much of wich has been overwritten. The novels also portray the characters in a very one dementional light, it seems to me, eh i digress with the new movies coming out anythins possible.

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