Homework Assignment: Speak Out

It’s been a long time since I’ve done one of these, but as you might have already noticed, much of the media on this week’s big news have taken the opportunity to bash the prequels and spread lies. Already I’ve chewed out some hack at Wired.com and let ’em have it at the Wall Street Journal among other sites.

I’m not out trolling, this is stuff I read all of the time anyway. But what’s especially grating is that these media douches don’t realize those “lousy” prequels made a lot of money and they were widely praised when they were first released, especially AOTC and ROTS. If you see this sort of thing going on, call them on their b.s.. If you see something factually incorrect, set them straight. We’ve been bullied and pushed around too long.

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31 Responses to “Homework Assignment: Speak Out”

  1. Pollyanna Giveschitz Says:

    It’s no use. People “know” what they “know” and the prequels are “bad” and anything they deem bad is associated with the prequels. I’m spent. People are retarded and they like being miserable and wrong.

  2. Isaac Says:

    I’m with you man!

  3. M. Marshall Says:

    LP, did you even see what one commenter said in reply to your comment?

    • lazypadawan Says:

      No. It’s okay. I was pretty upset when I wrote it and I didn’t care. I have many reasons to detest what passes for the media these days.

      • M. Marshall Says:

        I couldn’t agree with you more. I’ve had my own arguments with jerks over the internet, it’s exhausting arguing with fools.

  4. M. Marshall Says:

    Did you chew out that hack with an email, tweet or facebook? Just wondering.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      It was right there on the comments. No, I wasn’t nice at all and I wouldn’t be surprised if they deleted it.

  5. ninty15 Says:

    I want to see if I’ll act the same way when the sequel trilogy arrives. I loved all six star wars films equally, so much so that when I’m asked what’s my favorite I have to give two answers, one from the originals (TESB) and one from the prequels (RoTS). Seeing as though alot of the people I encountered we’re old enough to see the originals back when they originally released, I’d hear them say things like “George is ruining my childhood.” “This is not how Star Wars is supposed to be.” And all these other “elitist/purist” ideas. So I figured maybe I loved all six films because I was fortunate to have seen them as a child. When Episode 1 released, I was 9 years old, and I had already seen the original trilogy in theaters thanks to George re-releasing them with the Special Edition (plus we had older versions on VHS). But now, I’m older, so perhaps I’ll see if watching new Star Wars films will encroach upon my childhood the same way other folks claim it did on theirs.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      You see, I was almost 30 when TPM came out and I didn’t feel that way at all. It’s all in expectations. I had none. I welcomed the idea of new movies and felt lucky to get them. I was willing to give TPM every chance.

  6. J. Reeves Says:

    Call me a sadist — or maybe just a regular, rootin’, tootin’ masochist will do — but I *kinda* enjoy the prequels being misunderstood: always have, but especially now. This is also a time for positivity more than anything else, and quiet assertions of positivity/support for the PT may actually be more powerful than yet another lightsaber duel with the stubborn, hateful mules we think just don’t get it.

    Whenever the prequels are brought up and someone then challenges the tacit assumptions behind the now-standard negativity, the fur always flies. It’s fun. But it can also be fun to bask in the whims of the zeitgeist a little. Right now, I’m quite enjoying all the positive speculation about the new films, even if some of that comes at the expense of the prequels. The fanbase seems a slightly brighter and warmer place once more. People aren’t beating each other over the head, right now, quite as much as they still were a week ago. It’s a refreshing change.

    Getting stuck in to deal with more smug, dismissive, vituperative, anti-prequel cant kinda seems like a waste to me in this atmosphere of surprise, astonishment, optimism, and renewal. But no doubt I’ll be locking horns with bashers and back to my old ways in no time! Oh, say, 12 hours? Beep, beep, beep…

    • lazypadawan Says:

      Well, back at the beginning of the Star Wars renaissance of the ’90s, I knew some old school fan ficcers who liked fandom small and quiet and worried about what would happen with Star Wars becoming popular again. There are people who find appeal in liking something that isn’t conventionally accepted and for a good chunk of my teens and 20s, I was one of those people.

      But when it comes to life, I loathe injustice. There’s a reason why I identify with Anakin and with Leia, heh heh. I happen to think that the prequels have been served an injustice and those of us who supported those films have been too. I’ve been a Star Wars fan for 35 years and it really bothers me that I’ve been bullied, kicked around, ostracized, etc. by other so-called fans half my age who just repeat what they hear. I could write a book about the utter poseurism of fans who spent two months doing an elaborate campout for TPM, saw it several times, then trashed it when it became the thing to do. Rinse, repeat with the following two films. I mentioned a while back that even with a lot of internet hate on Twilight, you never saw nasty articles or interviews in any conventional media source because it would tick off the fans. The media does what it does in part because it believes ALL fans agree with them. And what they say influences everyone else. Injustice.

      • PrinceOfNaboo Says:

        Yeah, that’s it. There are other movies and works that are “hated” to some extent, but they are supported by their fans at all costs.
        With Star Wars, regardless of reality or imagination, the media lives in the believe they’d speak for most Star Wars fans when they bash the Prequels and therefore they have no hesitiation to do so.

  7. PrinceOfNaboo Says:

    That prequel hate is regrettable, but great works can never be admired and appreciated by everyone, because that would mean they are exchangable.
    Whenever there is a civil discussion, I make my point for the prequels. But if it’s just pathological hateboy blabla, I let them speak for themselves. Intelligent people detect their double standards and misconception and outright lies.

    The thing that makes me much more sad is Lucasfilm. They ignored ten years of AOTC, they hired hateboys for TCW and now they are releasing a video called “The Rise, Fall and Redemption of Anakin Skywalker” that COMPLETELY IGNORES his rise and fall. It’s a shame and embarrassing for Lucasfilm as a company.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      Uh, what video?

      • PrinceOfNaboo Says:

        I don’t mind the video, but if you call it “The Rise, Fall and Redemption of Anakin Skywalker”, it should contain all three components.
        Out of 5 minutes, only 1.30 minutes are dedicated to the prequels although the prequels portrayed Anakin rise and fall. So more than 3.30 minutes of the video dealt with his “redemption” and die OT.

      • PrinceOfNaboo Says:

        I was wrong, it’s even worse. The Prequel part basically ends after 1.04 minutes. Out of 5.07 minutes.

    • Simon Maxwell Says:

      I agree. I saw that video just a few minutes ago, and, as you say, only one-fifth of the video is from the prequels. It really annoys me that Lucasfilm treats the prequels like an eccentric old uncle at family reunions who everyone tries to ignore.

  8. lin Says:

    I do this daily but usually just at SW sites – who should know better than all of the lay-journalists. But it’s their prejudice and hatred against the prequels that provides the fuel, and even citations for entities like the Wall Street Journal – as if they would even have a clue.
    Thanks again LP and J Reeves too – you both always give me hope in the very best of ways. Unique, too.

  9. Adam D. Bram (Collor Pondrat) Says:

    I just tried on an absolutely INFURIATING Cracked article about “Why you should be glad Disney bought Star Wars” which includes all the tired and WRONG Hateboy talking points (even LAUDING Red Letter!) I wrote an angry rant that, interestingly enough, hasn’t shown up on the page yet. I did upvote one person who had pro-prequel sentiments and was calling people out on this kind of thing. I even shared my writer’s room story as a reply (which went through at once, also interesting).

    • lazypadawan Says:

      There you go!

    • Jim Raynor Says:

      I saw that article too. It was just so full of arrogance and possessiveness. My “favorite” part? The section where they insisted that George Lucas either “doesn’t like” or “doesn’t understand” Star Wars. Because THEY do.

      It’s just so self-important. In the minds of some fans, “George Lucas made some movies that I personally didn’t like” somehow turned into “George Lucas doesn’t understand his own movies.”

      It doesn’t matter to many of them that many fans might think differently and accept all six movies. It doesn’t matter to them that the newere movies were ALWAYS supposed to have a different style and tone. They were about a different era in the Star Wars universe, with a story that was always going to be tragic rather than triumphant.

      To show how relevant that article is, it also took shots at The Dark Knight Rises. Another movie that has been an undisputed critical and mainstream success, but which takes flak from fanboys who went in with extremely inflated expectations. I too would like to live in a world where TDKR actually counts as a “bad” movie.

  10. oxward321 Says:

    Where is everyone finding all this? The news I saw was positive. They where even showing the end duel from ROTS. I’ll gladly put these ass holes in thier place! 😉

  11. Simon Maxwell Says:

    Lazypadawan, may I ask why you provide a link to the ‘This Blog is Full of Words’ blog here on the home page? I had assumed that the writer of that blog was not a prequel basher. It seems I was wrong. In her piece about Disney buying Lucasfilm, she says, “The new movies are slated to be “original stories”. Most importantly, will they be any good? (They can’t be too much worse than the prequels.)” So she’s clearly no fan of the prequels.

  12. Eddie Says:

    Alright, LP–I took it to your FAVORITE magazine, Entertainment WeAkly…in a comment to their Timothy Zahn interview:

    phantommenaceholiday | 2 minutes ago Collapse

    “Fans might have other feelings about that, although Lucas has shown with
    the prequels that he doesn’t always consider their wishes.”

    And why should any artist “consider the wishes” of their audience? Though Star Wars movies rely on the invaluable contributions of hundreds of different people, ultimately, they’re the vision of one man (*especially* the prequels). It’s ironic that many of the same people who’ve been bleating for years about George Lucas as a “sell-out” can’t see how stridently he’s maintained his artistic integrity in the face of insane pressures from so-called “fans”.

  13. Jesse H Says:

    It’s important that Disney stick very closely to George Lucas’ “ery detailed treatments” of VII-IX, and PROVE they did by releasing the treatments, like Lucas always did. The Atlantic political thinktank is already trying to get VII-IX to make Star Wars into pro-state propaganda with it’s article “Why the Old ‘Star Wars’ Formula Can’t Work in the War-on-Terror Era”
    http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/10/why-the-old-star-wars-formula-cant-work-in-the-war-on-terror-era/264336/

    As one commenter put it, “The prequels form probably the best allegory ever produced in cinema.”

    It would be a shame if Disney were planning on following this thinktank’s advice and making Star Wars into a weapon in the US wars.

    • lazypadawan Says:

      I don’t think Kathleen Kennedy and Ko. are going to take orders from some guy at “The Atlantic.” Let’s put it this way; Star Wars deals with timeless themes and not temporal, topical issues. That’s what makes mythology perpetually relevant.

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